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Title: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on September 14, 2021, 12:57:45 PM
Episode #9511K
Aired – 9/14/2021; Taped – 8/17/2021
Models: James O'Halloran, Rachel Reynolds
Microphone Handoff: Rachel
First Four Contestant Seating: Left to Right

First IUFB: Personal Robot (Temi: Mobile personal service robot); ARP: $3,999 (James)

TRINYON CRAIG JAZMINE MARK
1200 1250 1600 1601

The winner is...
MARK


Mark is playing LUCKY $EVEN for a 2022 Volkswagen Taos S (1.5L engine, 8-speed AT, FWD, paint/fabric protection, carpeted floor mats, baby mirror, heavy duty trunk liner) (Rachel).

First number is...

$
2

Remaining: $7


Guess: 8

$
2
5

Remaining: $4


Guess: 6

$
2
5
4

Remaining: $2


Guess: 8

$
2
5
4
7

Remaining: $1


Guess: 3

$
2
5
4
7
6

Remaining: $0. LOSS

Second IUFB: Designer Sunglasses (Gucci: 4 pairs of aviators); ARP: $1,770 (Overhead)

TRINYON CRAIG JAZMINE EMILY
1800 1000 650 800

The winner is...
CRAIG


Craig is playing Bullseye for MLS Season tickets (2022 Season Tickets for 2 to soccer stadium of your choice + VIP parking, concessions and snacks; ARP: $11,000) (Rachel and James).

Grocery items:

  1. Pillsbury Strawberry Premium Cake Mix (15.25oz)
  2. Crest Scope Outlast Mouthwash (1L)
  3. Aunt Nellie's Sliced Pickled Beets (16oz)
  4. Ritz Toasted Sour Cream and Onion Chips (8.1oz)
  5. Newman's Own Marinara Sauce (24oz)

Pick 1: Mouthwash 2 x $5.99 = $11.98 WIN

Third IUFB: Range (Thor Kitchen: Stainles steel gas range with cast iron cooking grates); ARP: $2,399 (James)

TRINYON SHEILA JAZMINE EMILY
1501 1200 1600 2000

The winner is...
EMILY


Emily is playing PLINKO! for a chance to win $1,000,000!.

Drew gives her a free Plinko chip.
$


Chip #1 (Brad & Taylor Knife Sharpener) (Rachel):

8
9
She picks 9...
WIN!
$59
$


Chip #2 (Nostalgia Electric Fondue Pot):

1
5
She picks 5...
WIN!
$35
$


Chip #3 (Ultrasonic Washer):

2
3
She picks 2...
$
WIN!
$27


Chip #4 (Oxo Digital Food Scale):

5
0
She picks 0...
5
2


Emily drops the first chip...

 
   
$
         
 
1
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
5
0
0
0
0 200
0
0
0
0 5
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
$
0

Emily drops the second chip...

 
$
             
 
1
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
5
0
0
0
0 200
0
0
0
0 5
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
$
2,500

Emily drops the third chip...

 
 
$
           
 
1
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
5
0
0
0
0 200
0
0
0
0 5
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
$
7,500

Emily drops the fourth chip...

 
$
             
 
1
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
5
0
0
0
0 200
0
0
0
0 5
0
0
0
2
5
0
0
1
0
0
0
$
10,000

LOSS (Total Winnings: $10,121)

SCSD #1

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Mark $3,999 65 55 1.20
OVER
Emily $12,520 30 10 .40
Craig $12,770 60 60 *SHOWCASE*

Fourth IUFB: Designer Luggage (Tumi: pair of suitcases, nylon backpack); ARP: $2,295 (James and Rachel on CHUGGS)

TRINYON SHEILA JAZMINE RANDALL
726 1200 850 725

The winner is...
SHEILA


Sheila is playing BARGAIN GAME for:

  1. Trip to Rome (RT Coach to Rome, IT for a 6n stay in a superior room with Vatican View at Hotel Atlante Star + daily breakfast) (Rachel)
  2. Trip to Barcelona (RT Coach to Barcelona, SP for a 6n stay at RoomMate Carla + daily breakfast) (James)

She picks Barcelona.

ITEM PRICE TAG ARP DIFFERENCE
ROME
$10700
$12200
$1500
BARCELONA
$7890
$10890
$3000

Fifth IUFB: Go-Kart (Electric go-kart with 1600watt power, helmet); ARP: $1,620 (Rachel)

TRINYON JEAN JAZMINE RANDALL
1500 8000 3000 800

The winner is...
TRINYON


Trinyon is playing Double Prices for a 2021 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport LE (2L engine, CVT, FWD, welcome package, tonneau cover, black lug nuts, wheel locks) (James).

$25,750
$
$22,315
$25,750
$25,750
WIN

Well, Jazmine is still here. We knew the golden limo was coming, but now she needs to escape a trip to Marion Station, Maryland. She bids 3rd here, so it's not pleasant.

Sixth IUFB: Fitness Mirror (Pro-Form iFit: workout mirror, barbell, 2 dumbbells, 4 weight plates, family membership for year of streaming workouts); ARP: $1,499 (James)

KAREN JEAN JAZMINE RANDALL
1200 3500 2600 2601

The winner is...
KAREN


Jazmine departs while Karen is playing Back to '72 for a chance to win $50,000 in cash (Rachel).

Karen has $50 to price these three items:

  1. Sears 3-Speed Hang Up Hand Mixer
  2. American Tourister Tote Bag
  3. Guild Town Cryer Radio
Hand Mixer
$0
 
$50
$7
$16
41
Tote Bag

$10
 
$60
$35
$30
36
Radio
$50
 
$150
$80
$96
20

WIN

SCSD #2

Contestant Winnings Spin 1 Spin 2 TOTAL RESULT
Sheila $25,385 50 35 .85
Trinyon $27,370 15 80 .95 *SHOWCASE*
Karen $51,641 65 95 1.60
OVER

THE FABULOUS SHOWCASES

Trinyon has the honors...

SC1 - Craig

CONTRIBUTIONS FROM CONTESTANTS LIKE YOU
  • $5,000 in cash (James)
  • Trip to Tahiti (RT Coach to Tahiti for a 6n stay at Royal Tahitien Hotel daily breakfast, private sightseeing tour, luxury transportation, turtle snorkle adventure and a private catamaran sunset cruise) (James)
  • 2021 Colorado Red Jeep Renegade Sport (2.4L engine, 9-speed AT, FWD, interior protection package) (Rachel)
Bid: $35,000

SC2 - Trinyon

WATCH ON ANYTHING
  • Collection of Apple Products (Apple: 128GB iPad Pro with 11in display; 24in iMac with 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD; 128 iPhone 12 Pro Max with charging pad) (Rachel)
  • Gold Bars (4 1oz of gold of 999.9 fine) (Rachel)
  • 2021 Mazda MX-5 Miata Grand Touring (2L engine, 6-speed MT, RWD, weather package) (James)
Bid: $
Craig
$35,000
TAHITI/CAR
$39,311
$4,311
TAHITI/CAR
*WIN*
$52,081
Trinyon
$55,000
CONVERTIBLE
$43,378
CONVERTIBLE

Results: 4 out of 6
Winnings: $172,996
Biggest Winner: Craig

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Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: GameShowKid on September 14, 2021, 12:58:13 PM
$10,000 is nothing to sneeze at, but it still felt like a bit of a letdown in Million Dollar Plinko.

I have mixed feelings about Back To ’72. I wanted to like it more, but I wish it was more vintage. I think original prize music should be used, the “think” music should sound like it was composed and recorded in the early ‘70s, and original images/video of the prizes should be shown. Also, George’s readings of the prize copy felt phony and artificial, especially for the first one.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: sayingsorry on September 14, 2021, 01:05:15 PM
You could definitely tell today was supposed to be the premier with the showcase script, Drew mentioning the gold wheel, and the back to 72 game premier.

They must have a magnet that forces contestants to drop the chip all the way on the sides when they play Million Dollar Plinko. She looked like she wanted nothing to do with winning 200K the way she dropped those chips. At least she looked as happy as could be with 10k

I wonder if the turn table moves automatically or if there is someone in there doing it. If there is not that must have been a very expensive one season game. 
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Roland on September 14, 2021, 01:14:17 PM
I like the Back To '72 game so far! It seems like it'll be a fun game! I just wish it wasn't temporary, and exclusive to this season! Hopefully there will be enough popular demand to keep that game for a while longer! You know! Wheel Of Fortune's cash format was only supposed to be for about a month in 1987, and they've kept it to this day! Plus, Month Hall was only planning to host Let's Make A Deal for only a month on the 1990 version, and he stuck around until that version was cancelled in early 1991!

Also, yes, I'd love to see somebody win a million dollars this week in one of the remaining games!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 14, 2021, 01:31:36 PM
I like the Back To '72 game so far! It seems like it'll be a fun game! I just wish it wasn't temporary, and exclusive to this season! Hopefully there will be enough popular demand to keep that game for a while longer! You know! Wheel Of Fortune's cash format was only supposed to be for about a month in 1987, and they've kept it to this day! Plus, Month Hall was only planning to host Let's Make A Deal for only a month on the 1990 version, and he stuck around until that version was cancelled in early 1991!

What I'd personally love to see them do, is each successive season they play it, have it change years. Aka Season 51 could be Back to 73, 52 Back to 74, and so on. And course, each season would use prizes specific to the year tied to the game. I think it'd be a great idea and a way to maintain a nod to the show's past as time goes on from here.

As an aside re: the prize descriptions....I was kinda hoping they'd used Johnny Olson's voiceovers for those, that woulda been a definite blast from the past and added to the feel of the game that much more. I think George tried to sound like him, especially for the 1st prize, but it's not the same as the genuine article.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Roland on September 14, 2021, 01:43:24 PM
As an aside re: the prize descriptions....I was kinda hoping they'd used Johnny Olson's voiceovers for those, that woulda been a definite blast from the past and added to the feel of the game that much more. I think George tried to sound like him, especially for the 1st prize, but it's not the same as the genuine article.

Well, George did the best he could under the circumstances, and thankfully the brand name wasn't omitted in the copy like they do nowadays! It's a shame they can't bring back Johnny Olson from the dead or reverse Barker's age!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Alfonzo on September 14, 2021, 01:48:05 PM
What I'd personally love to see them do, is each successive season they play it, have it change years. Aka Season 51 could be Back to 73, 52 Back to 74, and so on. And course, each season would use prizes specific to the year tied to the game. I think it'd be a great idea and a way to maintain a nod to the show's past as time goes on from here.
 

That's exactly what I was thinking! No need to throw out a perfectly good game at the end of the season!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: plinkowin2010 on September 14, 2021, 01:49:03 PM
I think they should have used the blue cards with the brand name for the small prizes. Music cues from that year should be used during the game play. I am hoping they will use some of the vintage music cues this season. I like the backdrop used for the game, it looks like part of the old turntable with the color pattern from that year is used. I hope they use that backdrop when showing item up for bids behind the giant price tag. Maybe have the same backdrop with the purple, red, orange color pattern used this season.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Roland on September 14, 2021, 02:04:51 PM
I like the backdrop used for the game, it looks like part of the old turntable with the color pattern from that year is used. I hope they use that backdrop when showing item up for bids behind the giant price tag. Maybe have the same backdrop with the purple, red, orange color pattern used this season.

To be honest, I think it looks more like the backdrop behind where the showcase podiums (and also the Keep/Give game) were located! That one had lights around the border until the end of 1982! The turntable did not!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Torgo on September 14, 2021, 02:40:46 PM
I think they should have used the blue cards with the brand name for the small prizes. Music cues from that year should be used during the game play. I am hoping they will use some of the vintage music cues this season. I like the backdrop used for the game, it looks like part of the old turntable with the color pattern from that year is used. I hope they use that backdrop when showing item up for bids behind the giant price tag. Maybe have the same backdrop with the purple, red, orange color pattern used this season.
Why stop there? Exhume Johnny's corpse to read the copy! Bring back the harassment!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: EvilChameleon on September 14, 2021, 02:58:40 PM
 

That's exactly what I was thinking! No need to throw out a perfectly good game at the end of the season!
In thinking about it, maybe they're being cheeky when they say Back To 72 will be retired at the end of the season. Because next year it will be called Back To 73.

Either way, I enjoyed the gameplay.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: LiteBulb88 on September 14, 2021, 03:03:40 PM
L7: This was meant to be won. The contestant made choices I'd approve of 90% of the time in this game, but on a season opening week episode, you should be assuming the numbers will be in the middle and not 3s or 8s.

Plinko: Please drop the chip from the center slot. Just once. And preferably every time.

Back to '72: Our first new game in 1,457 days! It's a good concept that has a lot of really cool throwback elements such as the background looking like the old turntable, the shag carpeting, and the TV with a dial that changes "channels" as the amount you can be off by goes down. I do wish they had come up with a different pricing scheme for the game as this one feels like it's going to be too easy. Today's contestant messed up on the last product--given that she had $36 to play with, she should have guessed no less than $86. As mentioned above, I also hope they bring back classic prize cues for this game.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: ThatDonGuy on September 14, 2021, 03:11:57 PM
Back to '72: Our first new game in 1,457 days! It's a good concept that has a lot of really cool throwback elements such as the background looking like the old turntable, the shag carpeting, and the TV with a dial that changes "channels" as the amount you can be off by goes down. I do wish they had come up with a different pricing scheme for the game as this one feels like it's going to be too easy. Today's contestant messed up on the last product--given that she had $36 to play with, she should have guessed no less than $86. As mentioned above, I also hope they bring back classic prize cues for this game.

Exactly. When I saw the range, the first thing that came to my mind was, "Don't price it less than $85" (I wasn't sure if, it got down to exactly zero, she would still win or not). I saw somebody lose Lucky Seven for an expensive car by doing something similar; I think they had 3 dollars left, and guessed 7, which had a winning range of 4-9, but 6 would have a range of 3-9 - and it was a 3.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Thatgameshowguy on September 14, 2021, 05:46:44 PM
Finally got a chance to watch Back to '72 in action. I gotta say, I'm not a fan of the generic music they're using. Sure it sounds seventies, but they have actual music from the 70s already in their library from when the show started. I don't know how they could use the voice overs from Johnny without it sounding really tacky. It would be cool to see screencaps of the items from when they originally appeared though, and probably well within the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Mr. Weatherman on September 14, 2021, 06:25:06 PM
I can clearly see why this episode was shelved for a day with yet another million dollar Plinko bust (not that $10,000 is a bad chunk of change to walk away with), but were they really planning to open the season with Lucky $even for a no-thrills, sub-$30K SUV?  I won’t take back what I said yesterday about premiere weeks, but that would have been kind a boring way to open up a season — especially the 50th season.  I’m not a fan of PTR, but I’m kind of glad in hindsight we opened the season with that instead of...this. 🤣

For a second episode of premiere week?  Today was quality.  I do think George tried a little too hard to channel his inner Johnny in Back to ‘72.  Can’t really blame him, though.  This is 50-year-old prize copy written in a totally different style than he’s used to lol.  I’m sure this will improve throughout the season.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: GuyWithFace on September 14, 2021, 06:30:16 PM
It would be cool to see screencaps of the items from when they originally appeared though, and probably well within the realm of possibility.
It would certainly remove the potential issues with attempting to track down the actual physical items. It would also allow the game to use larger-size SPs than could reasonably fit inside the TV screen prop.

I think they should have used the blue cards with the brand name for the small prizes.
The blue sponsor cards were not in place during 1972, instead being orange/tan.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: ssetta on September 14, 2021, 06:51:28 PM
This is the first time I have ever heard of a game that they're planning on retiring right when they debut it. But even when I first saw it, I was gonna say, "they can't give away $50,000 all the time!" and I was right. So I bet that even this season it's not gonna be played that often. Probably only like one or two more times. Has there ever been a game like this before, where it was only supposed to last for a short period of time?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: LiteBulb88 on September 14, 2021, 07:02:17 PM
It doesn't need to be played for $50,000 every time. It'll probably settle into a standard prize game like Cliffhangers.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: 123123123 on September 14, 2021, 07:09:27 PM
Today's show kept the enjoyment going from yesterday, with the big highlight being the debut of Back to '72.

I like the throwback turntable design and hearing the old copy of the prizes. Gameplay is simple enough, taking aspects from Range, Cliff and Lucky Seven (bit surprised L7 was played today as well tbh)

I don't know if that's just for the first playing or not, but the one thing that shocked me is the $50k prize. Since its a single season game, I figured they'd want to get their money's worth and play it a fair amount. The game isn't necessary easy (I lost $30 on the mixer alone), but I have a hard time believing its harder than any of the cash games that offer less.

Or maybe they just play it 5 times all season and really play up the limited time angle, I guess time will tell. I'm already enjoying this season a lot
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Eddie on September 14, 2021, 07:39:44 PM
The new "Back to '72" Pricing Game looks great!
I love the way the guess the price by turning a dial.
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p180x540/242099693_10158120532166863_3957930822668321191_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=B_fu6KAF_M0AX9JzoaE&tn=s4nkgp0ATNRyzKVw&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=01fd9ab7f66e1237babec1a17fd919a5&oe=61668187)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: JarodJGames on September 14, 2021, 09:40:05 PM
-Seemed like the Contestant got the hang of Back to '72
-$10,000 in Plinko is Decent if it was a Normal Playing, but if this Plinko was under Normal Money Spread it would have been way less
-Easy setup on Lucky 7, Guessing 5 all the way would leave you with $3 Left (If my math is correct) $2 would then be added to your winnings
-I knew Showcase 2 was gonna be more than Showcase 1 but not $55K level more
 
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on September 14, 2021, 10:01:23 PM
Recap posted.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: UltraPrice on September 14, 2021, 10:41:42 PM
For the first time 23 years, the $5,000 slot in Plinko was used.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: SteveGavazzi on September 14, 2021, 11:10:01 PM
Lucky $even was definitely supposed to be won.  All Mark had to do was guess 5 every time.

I really like Back to '72, and I hope it ends up sticking around after this season.  The set is neat, and more importantly, they created a format to go with it that actually makes sense.  I wish they'd used some classic cues during it, but they kind of made up for that by doing a bunch of Breslow-style wipes.  I do wish we knew whether it's actually a cash game (I sort of doubt it) and whether it's a small prize game (I could see it going either way).

Speaking of Back to '72, why heck did Karen only give herself $30 leeway in one direction on the last item when she had $36 left? :confused:

What is up with the Big Wheel's beeps?  They've been very tinny-sounding this week -- it almost sounds like something with the effect is broken.

I like the Back To '72 game so far! It seems like it'll be a fun game! I just wish it wasn't temporary, and exclusive to this season! Hopefully there will be enough popular demand to keep that game for a while longer! You know! Wheel Of Fortune's cash format was only supposed to be for about a month in 1987, and they've kept it to this day! Plus, Month Hall was only planning to host Let's Make A Deal for only a month on the 1990 version, and he stuck around until that version was cancelled in early 1991!

Also, yes, I'd love to see somebody win a million dollars this week in one of the remaining games!

Holy good Lord, dude, use periods.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: ProfPrice on September 14, 2021, 11:15:17 PM
Would Back to ‘72 work better if the ARP for each item wasn’t revealed until after the contestant has made their guess for all 3 items similar to the setup of Give or Keep?

If there are keeping the high cash prize for the game, then holding off on revealing the prices may increase the difficulty of the game.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: tpir04 on September 14, 2021, 11:22:18 PM
Okay okay, Back to 72 is good. Nice throwback, nice 70s vibe, nice gameplay. I will still maintain it's more like Cliff than any other game though. I'm gonna call bull on those prize copies, those definitely did not feel like originals. Also would have loved to have heard original 1972 cues as think music, but it is what it is. Does its job and does it well, plus there's $50,000. 8/10

Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Roadgeek Adam on September 14, 2021, 11:24:47 PM
Would Back to ‘72 work better if the ARP for each item wasn’t revealed until after the contestant has made their guess for all 3 items similar to the setup of Give or Keep?

If there are keeping the high cash prize for the game, then holding off on revealing the prices may increase the difficulty of the game.

They aren't keeping $50,000. It was a debut thing.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: moneygamelover on September 14, 2021, 11:43:22 PM
I really enjoyed back to 72. The TV set type set was nice and I liked the reference to the "new" that was part of the show's original name. It's a super cool concept to actually have to guess 1972 prices and using the original prize copies was a nice touch. It's nice to see such a cool cash game and the amount of leeway of $50 off total over the 3 items is completely reasonable. I guessed $10 on the hand mixer, $30 on the totes bag, and $100 on the radio. Speaking of the radio, if I had $36 to work with, I agree with others that if the lowest possible price is $50, then $86 is the lowest I'd guess. I'd want to maximize my margin of error. Perhaps contestants will pick up on the strategy element as the game is played throughout the year. Seeing $50000 won on Back to 72's 1st ever playing was totally awesome baby! :) This game is FAR superior to the most recent cash game, Hot Seat, and it's ashamed we will only have Back to 72 for 1 season. Well done Price on creating a fair, unique, and enjoyable cash game. If only it wasn't for the short term only..........
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: gamesurf on September 14, 2021, 11:55:07 PM
Back to ‘72 is wonderful! It works as fanservice for the diehards, it works as a reminder of the showman’s longevity for everyone else. I love the dial the contestant has to turn—imagine how much less fun it would be if they just had the contestant state their bid a la Cliffhangers. I don’t even mind the fact that it has a built-in expiration date. It’s going to feel like a special game even when it isn’t being played for $50,000.

The best thing that can be said for Plinko is that they upped the dollar values of the consolation prizes so you don’t have the awkwardness of getting everybody to tune in only to see the contestant win $2,100. A $10,000 win at least doesn’t feel like a waste of a promo.

Alternate universe proposal for Million Dollar Plinko: $1,000/$2,500/$5,000/$0/$50,000 for the slots, and one of the four SP podiums holds a “Golden Plinko chip” instead of a regular pink one. The golden chip is dropped last and is worth 20x whatever it lands in.

This way the show would either get all the headlines and media coverage of a Million Dollar Plinko winner, or they send the contestant off with a decent but non-budget-busting chunk of change, and the game (hopefully) would build to an exciting finish Plinko doesn’t usually get.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: SeaBreeze341 on September 14, 2021, 11:55:37 PM
 

That's exactly what I was thinking! No need to throw out a perfectly good game at the end of the season!


Seconded.  I'm optimistic that they'll change their minds, but they'd have to call it something else.  As mentioned elsewhere it is Cliff Hangers + Range Game and even Walk of Fame.  Finally, a little bit of Now and Then.  Nonetheless, I actually love Back to '72!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Grammar-Nazi on September 15, 2021, 12:01:09 AM
The apostrophe in Back to ’72 is upside down and it annoys the hell out of me.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: plinkostick1 on September 15, 2021, 12:03:15 AM
The Sears mixer was a 5 Price Tags prize here

and the "town crier" lamp on another episode

Similar copy but not exact, but also could have been changed over the season. I was skeptical with the mixer as it didn't really sound like "serious" copy but that probably comes down to George's cadence when reading it.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: kingpin623 on September 15, 2021, 01:36:16 AM

Seconded.  I'm optimistic that they'll change their minds, but they'd have to call it something else. 

Should they decide to keep Back To ‘72 after the end of this season, they can either update the year annually (Back To ‘73, Back To ‘74, etc.).  I was also thinking they could change the name to “50 Years Ago…”, though right now they’re actually using items and prices from 49 years ago.

Speaking of Back To ‘72, I thought the hand mixer was a pic, graphic, or even CGI until they rotated the turntable inside the mock-up TV.  Somehow it didn’t look 3D or even real. And Drew reaching into the TV to open the door of the Town Crier radio dispelled any myth for me that the TV had a transparent screen.

Lastly, if they keep the pricing ranges the same for Back To ‘72, a contestant who gets the first two items on the nose cannot lose on the third item if they make sure they guess right smack in the middle of the $100 range for said third item.

JBK
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: PimpinJC on September 15, 2021, 06:45:16 AM
I almost wish Back to ‘72 was done a la “The Price WAS Right” 1994’s version.  The show has every old show digitized, and they obviously have the old copy…why not just show a clip of Johnny describing the small prize and have the contestant guess it?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Casey on September 15, 2021, 09:49:49 AM
Wouldn't they have to pay Johnny's estate money for having him "read" the copy again in a new episode?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 15, 2021, 10:35:26 AM
Wouldn't they have to pay Johnny's estate money for having him "read" the copy again in a new episode?

Half did think about that before, could be possible. By the by though, who would control his estate? Does anyone know? He never had kids so....

Also, re: The Price WAS Right name that's been tossed about here last couple days.....would there have been any legal issues using that name with the Goodson family (Johnathon specifically obviously)? Or am I totally overthinking that given Fremantle's overall rights to the show in its' various incarnations?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Guint on September 15, 2021, 10:51:01 AM
Given that Fremantle can air hundreds, heck, thousands of game show episodes where Johnny announces across Buzzr/Barker Era Price, I don't think that's a concern.

But personally, as great as Johnny was, I'm not tuning in to the show now to listen to him or Bob. I'm here for Drew and George now, and it's unfair to George to have to yield to an old clip recording every time they want to play this game this season.

And speaking of this season, I'm glad this is a one-season-and-done game. It's fine, but we're simply playing Cliff with an easier range because the subject material is harder. I'm also not necessarily sold on the idea of playing a pricing game which requires zero knowledge of current, present day prizes and the like (someone could likely counter that Now....or Then is also like this but that is incorrect; you can know the prices of everything "NOW" and know that the prices that don't match are "THEN"s).
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Casey on September 15, 2021, 12:13:44 PM
Given that Fremantle can air hundreds, heck, thousands of game show episodes where Johnny announces across Buzzr/Barker Era Price, I don't think that's a concern.
Reruns, particularly on a niche streaming channel, are a whole different thing than new episodes on a broadcast network.  I don't think you can blow it off that easily.  That being said, I will freely admit I don't have knowledge of Johnny's contract, or anything else related to this - it was just the thought I had as to why they aren't using Johnny's voice.  Everything boils down to money.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: RedWing512 on September 15, 2021, 01:05:16 PM
I'm also not necessarily sold on the idea of playing a pricing game which requires zero knowledge of current, present day prizes and the like...
I don't think anybody--both in the past regime and the current one--have ever explicitly stated that the show must focus on modern-day goods and prices.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: cvjs1993 on September 15, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Maximum winnings: $1,390,908
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Guint on September 15, 2021, 01:58:02 PM
Reruns, particularly on a niche streaming channel, are a whole different thing than new episodes on a broadcast network.  I don't think you can blow it off that easily.

Fair, but in reading this I'm also reminded of the times they've shown classic clips on the daytime show such as from the first show and from the Yolanda incident, when Johnny's voice was intact.

I don't think anybody--both in the past regime and the current one--have ever explicitly stated that the show must focus on modern-day goods and prices.

Knowing the prices of items from 2021 vs. knowing the prices of items from 1972 are two different skillsets.

Again, it's a one season game meant to celebrate the milestone so I won't get too hyped up about it, but I'll be glad to see it go once the season is over.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: RedWing512 on September 15, 2021, 08:28:48 PM
Knowing the prices of items from 2021 vs. knowing the prices of items from 1972 are two different skillsets.
That’s like asking a Jeopardy contestant to only study up on modern history, even though ancient history is still a potential subject.

In the end, It’s still pricing knowledge irregardless, and that’s the whole premise of the show.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 15, 2021, 08:35:58 PM
That’s like asking a Jeopardy contestant to only study up on modern history, even though ancient history is still a potential subject.

In the end, It’s still pricing knowledge irregardless, and that’s the whole premise of the show.

Not to mention Now or Then has asked similar of contestants (if including current prices into mix too), for many years now. This isn't that new in that sense.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: JayC on September 15, 2021, 10:49:13 PM
Love the set for Back to 72, they really captured the look of the original set. I'm surprised that it's purely about pricing the item as it was in 1972 though, I thought there would be some incorporation of the price in 2021, like it would involve the contestant guessing the dollar amount difference between 1972 and today.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Guint on September 15, 2021, 11:24:44 PM
That’s like asking a Jeopardy contestant to only study up on modern history, even though ancient history is still a potential subject.

In the end, It’s still pricing knowledge irregardless, and that’s the whole premise of the show.

Huh?

What does what is asked on Jeopardy! have anything to do with what is asked on Price? That is one of the most apples/oranges comparisons I have ever seen.

Not to mention Now or Then has asked similar of contestants (if including current prices into mix too), for many years now. This isn't that new in that sense.

Read my original argument: Now....or Then does not require contestants to know the prices of items from a certain date. You in theory could know the prices of everything as they are today, and if the price doesn't match what you know it is today, it logically has to be a THEN price. Back to '72 requires you know the prices from the past and you have no other way of reasoning it out.

The only reasonable comparison to Back to '72 is the Price WAS Right from the '94 Davidson version, which famously ran out of material so they ended up bringing out the Wheel for several episodes. Great track record!
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: jhc2010 on September 16, 2021, 01:25:31 AM
I'm also not necessarily sold on the idea of playing a pricing game which requires zero knowledge of current, present day prizes and the like (someone could likely counter that Now....or Then is also like this but that is incorrect; you can know the prices of everything "NOW" and know that the prices that don't match are "THEN"s).
I guess you aren't aware that Now...or Then requires literally no pricing knowledge at all and can be won 100% of the time by simply knowing that exactly 2 of the 6 products are "THEN".
http://slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2013/11/winning_the_price_is_right_strategies_for_contestants_row_plinko_and_the.html
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: JT on September 16, 2021, 08:50:18 AM
I like Back to '72 a lot.  Great job on the retro look.  They could have made the TV look a little better. And the TNPIR logo at the bottom looked a little off to me.   This is basically Cliff Hangers with 50 steps instead of 25 which is fine.  (I don't think the scale is necessary and only reminds people of Cliff and Range Game.)   They could just use 3 prizes all each under $50 without providing a range and people will get the hang of it.  Too bad they didn't use the 1972 SP cues.  That definitely would add the the retro feel they are going for.  Nevertheless, good to see a new game, and as I have said previously, after this season is over, they can just call it Back to the '70s and show the year each of the 3 prizes appeared (e.g. first one from 72, then 73, then 74, etc.).    I would love to see this game played almost weekly this season for regular prizes, trips and even a retro car reproduction to keep w/ the theme!

And yes, this was intended to be Monday's show by the references made and it still should have been.  They could have opened the show with the debut of this brand new game that celebrates this historic milestone since the $50K win was very likely, and bury $1Million Plinko as game 6.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: Guint on September 16, 2021, 09:08:23 AM
I guess you aren't aware that Now...or Then requires literally no pricing knowledge at all and can be won 100% of the time by simply knowing that exactly 2 of the 6 products are "THEN".
http://slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2013/11/winning_the_price_is_right_strategies_for_contestants_row_plinko_and_the.html

Oh, don't worry, I was. I've read all of LiteBulb's stuff (which is excellent, by the way) and remember running into that exact article which he linked to. :)

I was arguing strictly from a pricing perspective, but if nothing else, you just further proved my point that knowledge of what items cost during the "THEN" date isn't necessary in that game.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: BillyGr on September 16, 2021, 12:33:59 PM
Oh, don't worry, I was. I've read all of LiteBulb's stuff (which is excellent, by the way) and remember running into that exact article which he linked to. :)

I was arguing strictly from a pricing perspective, but if nothing else, you just further proved my point that knowledge of what items cost during the "THEN" date isn't necessary in that game.

And that thought isn't totally true.  Without knowing which 2 are the Then you may still make an error(s) that stop you from winning.

For instance, you pick 2 Now correctly.  Go to pick the 3rd for the win and say now and it is then.  Now to win you are forced to pick the one on the other side of the 2 correct - if you get that wrong you can no longer win, and you don't know for certain which one it is.

Theoretically, you could try the other ones first, but no one does that and would that even be permitted if someone tried?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: pricefan18 on September 16, 2021, 02:19:27 PM
And that thought isn't totally true.  Without knowing which 2 are the Then you may still make an error(s) that stop you from winning.

For instance, you pick 2 Now correctly.  Go to pick the 3rd for the win and say now and it is then.  Now to win you are forced to pick the one on the other side of the 2 correct - if you get that wrong you can no longer win, and you don't know for certain which one it is.

Theoretically, you could try the other ones first, but no one does that and would that even be permitted if someone tried?

I never even knew that it was only 2 that were Then. Has that always been the case? Seems like it could easily be exploited...almost too much so.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: gamesurf on September 16, 2021, 02:45:00 PM
I never even knew that it was only 2 that were Then. Has that always been the case? Seems like it could easily be exploited...almost too much so.
Since the late 90s, at least.

Seems like it could easily be exploited...almost too much so.

If every contestant were the type to track the show’s stats and memorize counterintuitive-seeming strategies and flowcharts, the game would never, ever be lost again.

Fortunately for the show, that isn’t the case.

Theoretically, you could try the other ones first, but no one does that and would that even be permitted if someone tried?

Drew would raise an eyebrow and the audience would boo, but no, no rule against bouncing around the board.

(although that could change if more than a few people tried the strategy)
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: therealcu2010 on September 16, 2021, 02:58:29 PM
Insanity: doing the same exact thing over and over expecting different results.

Million Dollar Plinko is insanity.
Once again, Million Dollar Plinko is insanity.
They'll never learn.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: JayC on September 16, 2021, 03:01:06 PM
I guess they figure if they can get one center slot hit, someone can do it at least once again or even two times. But yes, million dollar Plinko is tiring.
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: bonkers77 on September 22, 2021, 02:46:15 AM
I love new logo and now the doors are cool.
I love Back to 72' too. It's a Small Prizes Game? The contestant wins the items?
Title: Re: TPiR Recap - 9/14/2021
Post by: crazypackersfan on September 23, 2021, 07:03:18 PM
Congratulations to Drew Carey on making it to his 15th season! I've been one of his harshest critics, but he has really made this show his own. Some of his best hosting has come since the pandemic, having to host under the worst of circumstances. He deserves a ton of credit for becoming the Steve Young of game shows.

As for Back to 72, it's a great game. No problems with it whatsoever. $50,000 feels like too high a prize for a normal show, but reduce the prize size and you've got a great game for the next nine months or so.

I have no earthly idea why the contestant refused to drop any of her 4 Plinko chips down the middle. Hit just one of them, and she makes 20 times what she made by avoiding the middle. Hit two of them, and your life is completely changed. Fortune favors the bold.