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Studio 46 - Non-TPiR Discussion => Out In Left Field => Topic started by: jude_este on January 11, 2023, 12:37:54 PM
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Felt like starting a new thread by not wanting to bump up the previous one for general Jeopardy! discussion to share the news from Deadline Hollywood that another primetime spinoff series called Jeopardy! Masters has been ordered at ABC with Ken Jennings as host. The series will feature the six currently highest-ranked Jeopardy! contestants who will face off in a Champions League-style event facing off in a Champions League-style event to win the title of Jeopardy! Masters champion.
https://deadline.com/2023/01/jeopardy-masters-elite-quiz-iteration-ordered-at-abc-1235217706/
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If Watson isn't playing I'm not watching. :P
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A few updates on Jeopardy! Masters:
- There will be 10 hour-long episodes with 2 half-hour games in each
- All 6 of the competitors will appear in every episode.
- It is currently intended on being a yearly event and if that happens, then the top 3 ranked players will return next year while the bottom 3 spots will be up for grabs, with those players going into the pool for the Jeopardy! Invitational Tournament, an event held in conjunction with Masters. This tournament will feature other past greats such as Julia Collins, Sam Kavanaugh, Colby Burnett, Larissa Kelly, etc. It is unknown whether the Invitational Tournament will be done in Primetime or not, but it will happen if Masters returns for a second go-around.
- Spots 4-6 will be filled by the winner of the next TOC, the winner of the Jeopardy! Invitational Tournament, and a “wild card”
Somewhat unrelated, but Jeopardy! is also considered imposing a 10-year eligibility rule similar to policies currently held by Family Feud and The Price is Right.
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Somewhat unrelated, but Jeopardy! is also considered imposing a 10-year eligibility rule similar to policies currently held by Family Feud and The Price is Right.
I have not listen to the Jeopardy podcast in a long time.. Was this mention on the podcast? If this does happen, will this be a good idea or bad idea?
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I have not listen to the Jeopardy podcast in a long time.. Was this mention on the podcast? If this does happen, will this be a good idea or bad idea?
Yes, Michael Davies brought up the idea on the most recent episode.
Personally, I think it’s a great idea because the game of Jeopardy! has changed so much in the last 10, even 5 years. Allowing past contestants to come back really opens up doors for them to shine in ways that they may not have been able to previously. Especially considering Second Chance wasn’t a thing yet, I think it’s only fair.
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It seems that Jeopardy! contestants, despite knowing a lot of trivia, are having trouble mapping the contiguous 48 states as of late. :P
Two weeks ago, they had a clue about "MIMAL" (Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana), and yesterday had a clue about which two 6-letter states west of the Mississippi River border each other (Oregon and Nevada). I can understand only one correct response, but these should not have been 0/3.
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It seems that Jeopardy! contestants, despite knowing a lot of trivia, are having trouble mapping the contiguous 48 states as of late. :P
pardon the joke: but perhaps the next rebooted game show should be Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego (or bring back the Geography Bee like Trebek used to host)
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It seems that Jeopardy! contestants, despite knowing a lot of trivia, are having trouble mapping the contiguous 48 states as of late. :P
Two weeks ago, they had a clue about "MIMAL" (Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana), and yesterday had a clue about which two 6-letter states west of the Mississippi River border each other (Oregon and Nevada). I can understand only one correct response, but these should not have been 0/3.
In under 30 seconds to get it reasoned out and written? Sure. It’s a tiny sample size of three people, under pressure. My mind first went to Kansas and I had no luck trying to recalibrate. It happens.
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I got Nevada right away, but I wasn’t sure about it sharing a border with Oregon until Ken said that it does.
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Did you see the Jeopardy episode today February 8 2023. they did a few Price is right references. The people at J bored figured out which one since he mentions a Pontiac car '2007-12-04' The player was Greg (Gregory) Snyder found episode here (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,4832.0.html) in season 36. The uniform and funny sign common makes me think he got confused with let's make a deal. he also said something after final Jeopardy Can not find it on my recording though. (I think the final market is 1230am est so I think this is safe to the only after airs rule.)
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I wrote a lot about the podcast (due you taking taking three months catching up) but I limited it to one summary post in the first post about sports. warning both a very long. Sports ones first I save this one because I am just really questioning how much he actually understands about regulations in general In the work over the years to make sure that all of these things somewhat less chaotic.
I have heard people talk about if they did it live they would have the audience yell about close causes, as when the things they heard on the podcast. it seems like they were talking about maybe discussing it but that might not be the best idea thought of. I do definitely know in Sporting events that this director loves to make talk about so often. they are not even allowed to show on the Jumbotron close causes (this is in terms of baseball rules.) to make sure to keep the peace. another weird thing I really find is that instead of explaining the amount of super champions they went on to make themselves look more suspicious to the average viewer by saying that it harder you to be one now than it was back then. Hopefully he listens to the angel on his shoulder (whoever the female podcast hosts is.) and talking about this again does he actually check, maybe he just never went to a live game in regular seating (as in not in the announcer suite) or maybe he is only familiar with the law of the UK which might be different on that. The a masters tournament league is something would be excited about. One of the few things that I am very disappointed that we have to call some thing a 'sport' have a be considered legitimate (I personally use Olympics definition of the sport, minus the popularity 'must be played internationally' cause the Olympics has). I will be watching them before bed at the speed slightly faster than they are coming out, so I should be through to the latest episode around soon enough.
edited ps not official legal advice
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this is number 2
I have a whole multiple paragraphs for just the podcast that I was going to submit one safe catch up completely but one thing I do you wanna point out is in the 'what is celebrity Jeopardy' episode he mentioned a winning the category bonus as a new thing (16min in), but I remember watching the six episodes of the previous iterations (original (possibly prime time) 1970s) that one and the mentioned a prize for being the first want to run a category in a row completely. (I think it was a trip, I watch this during Covid's height) I am not sure if people around in his circle both in person and I
internet saw that as I was not even born then but since he is talking about looking at the original pilot 1 minute before this giving his comments maybe he might look into this one as well as vintage Jeopardy is on the radar. another funny thing with the episode about the debut of season 39. that j archive a fan run source (like are own Price is right archive here) is apparently Better research than the actual shows archive that they have to ask them for a analyzation. (which is something I am proud of as fans.) what I am really wondering is with the road to the champions, Who did the microphone on this it is so lower quality and way pitchier then the rest of the show, it is not even balanced. on the episode I actually skipped to once I saw the name The masters I only listen to 10 minutes before going back to my regular scheduled order but one comment that shook me was a jeopardy universe in which the contestant had the question and Ken does not know what to do. it was hilarious considering that was that was an idea for the show. giving answers and figure out how the question lead to it.
but just to be clear I am loving this podcast and jeopardy.
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So Ken really did take a break halfway through. Disregarding prime time or any other versions, the show tapes 230 episodes per season, and the J! Archive currently has 115 shows for this one. From what it sounds like, Mayim Bialik will be doing the other 115. I didn't think about that until now, even though I regularly keep an eye on the archive. Silly me. :embarassed:
I wait and see how the JBoard is going to react to her return when it airs, and the forum will probably keep its cool. If not...I don't know if you'll be able to call it "J Bored" once they start commenting. ;)
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Ken is actually returning after the High School Reunion Tournament finishes so he'll actually be hosting more than half.
/of course he should be hosting all of the shows, Mayim sucks
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/of course he should be hosting all of the shows, Mayim sucks
At this point, I’m not sure what the producers/executives see in Mayim Bialik. She’s competent, but Jennings is actually a worthy successor to Trebek.
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Ken is actually returning after the High School Reunion Tournament finishes so he'll actually be hosting more than half.
Dangit. 115 and 115 would've made sense after looking at the J! Archive. (It doesn't help that JBoard itself is all one big section, so it's hard just to think about looking at the updates.)
But that's okay, because I can't complain about extra time for Ken Jennings. :-D
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Watching Mayim, who's had the same hosting style for almost two years now, reminds me of how much more competent Ken is as host. She takes way too many unnecessary pauses for suspense, she's a broken record, especially during Final Jeopardy!, and she couldn't ad-lib if her life depended on it.
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Yeah, I prefer Ken's style myself. I don't like when he drags it out with "also incorrect" on the 2nd miss or says "no harm, no foul" on the 3rd miss, but those things are pretty minor.
Even with Ken fitting the show as well as he does, I still have a gut feeling that Sony wants Mayim.
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I agree with Ken hosting but here are my best guess. she was the best of the female host they had doing guest hosting (they probably could have found better female host to test out but I am not in their shoes.) if you see the new switch game they use the female voice (I literally got the wii game to hear the Trebek version but the female voice in the game is better than the female host we have). so from that I kind of knew they were going to get a female replacement of course they made the game before Ken Jennings started his categories which put him on the radar. which is probably how this whole thing happened. this is not to say I do not like female hosting in general but she is just not it. anyhow this is just a theory I hope it is reasonable.
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The producers announced yesterday that Ken's next hosting stint will be his final one of the season, lasting from March 10 to April 28. Not that social media reaction alone is the best gauge of this rotation idea, but it has been largely negative since Mayim returned. It will be interesting to see if the social media outrage is backed up by lower ratings, otherwise this may be the long-term plan.
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Misogyny coming out in force on social media is hardly new, and apart from being repugnant, not especially newsworthy. It’s sad, but bitter trolls come out of the woodwork.
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Yeah, I prefer Ken's style myself. I don't like when he drags it out with "also incorrect" on the 2nd miss or says "no harm, no foul" on the 3rd miss, but those things are pretty minor.
Even with Ken fitting the show as well as he does, I still have a gut feeling that Sony wants Mayim.
then again, Trebek also used the "no harm, no foul" line a lot in his 35+ seasons hosting the show
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Beware of an April Fools joke stating that Ken and Mayim will jointly host the show. According to the article seen, Ken and Mayim would alternate reading clues.
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Beware of an April Fools joke stating that Ken and Mayim will jointly host the show. According to the article seen, Ken and Mayim would alternate reading clues.
They should do this next year, when April 1 falls on a Monday (2024 is a leap year).
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The most recent returning champion Ben Chan did not return on the Monday show due to illness. Apparently, people thought he looked a little under the weather during his first three shows.
His absence has already been confirmed on JBoard.
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As per Deadline, Mayim Bialik is standing in solidarity with the striking Writers Guild of America writers by deciding against hosting the final week of filming for season 39, with Ken Jennings taking over hosting duties which will be between May 16 and May 19.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/writers-strike-jeopardy-mayim-bialik-1235359858/
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On the most recent syndicated game, somebody guessed that Bob Barker was the regular on Hogan's Heroes and Laugh-In who later became host of Family Feud. :rollold:
According to the J! Archive, Ben Chan returns on the 15th, and that means he'll face potential superchamp Hannah Wilson on his return. So far, Ben has played 3 games and had 3 runaways, so Hannah might be facing a tough opponent...
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On the most recent syndicated game, somebody guessed that Bob Barker was the regular on Hogan's Heroes and Laugh-In who later became host of Family Feud. :rollold:
And? Old game show hosts aren’t front and center in everyone’s mind, and sometimes the wrong thing comes to mind.
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And? Old game show hosts aren’t front and center in everyone’s mind, and sometimes the wrong thing comes to mind.
Yeeeeah, I don’t exactly care. Doesn’t change the fact that I found their answers cringeworthy as hell.
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Even with Ken fitting the show as well as he does, I still have a gut feeling that Sony wants Mayim.
Well now that "Call Me Kat" has been cancelled, Sony might be thinking to themselves "Well now there's no excuse for Mayim to be too busy to host the show full-time. Let's ask her to be the new permanent host once this writer's strike ends."
Would I prefer her or Ken? Probably Ken, but I can't really say who's the better host as I haven't watched an episode with either of them as host to judge who's the better emcee.
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Yeeeeah, I don’t exactly care. Doesn’t change the fact that I found their answers cringeworthy as hell.
Overly smug?
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Well, Ben Chan is back, and what a showing! $60,000 today alone. I think it's been a while since we've gone that high. A triple-get Final Jeopardy! clue certainly helped (even I got that one).
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And now Ben Chan is the first champion to start with six straight runaway games. While several champions have had longer streaks, none of those streaks began on their first show.
Obviously, he won't be able to finish his run with a perfect runaway game streak...unless he pulls a Cliff Clavin. :oldlol:
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And so Ben Chan's reign suddenly ends...and in controversy.
His Final Jeopardy! response was "Beatrice & Benedict" when the correct spelling for the second name is "Benedick" with a K on the end. It hurts, but there's still the rule about when spelling affects pronunciation.
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The controversy is being kept alive by so-called fans who keep showing the same ignorance for the rules. The news sites showing the same disregard for the judges don’t help matters.
It’s like blaming an umpire for striking out. You accomplish nothing, you look stupid doing it, but it’s the easiest thing to do.
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and remember, a similar incident during a Kids Week game ended up being what caused Kids Week to no longer be a thing (due to parents being more invested than the kids, who probably won't see much of that money they win BECAUSE they're kids)
also: i wonder how many of the people complaining actually watch the show vs cherry-picked clips (edited to add this)
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A few social media trolls and click-bait sham “news” articles don’t mean actual controversy. His answer was unambiguously wrong.
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It shouldn't, but it did. I know his response was incorrect. It happens though, and I believe this is the first time such an error took down a near-superchamp (so far, I don't believe it has knocked out a true 10+ day champ).
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A few social media trolls and click-bait sham “news” articles don’t mean actual controversy. His answer was unambiguously wrong.
yea, at least it's JUST a misspelling and not something akin to the quiz show scandals that made Merv even think of the idea that BECAME Jeopardy as we know it today
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The game show show and her coming back made me revisit it.I will say that the Mayim is better this time. what I meant the first time is no matter what gender you are a requirement for a hosting job of a quiz show is to pronounce words (and preferably not sound pitchy, or as Maggie Speak said "easy to listen too") and for some reason they chose a lot of guest host that do not pronounce stuff (she was the best of the female hosts I will admit) and I mean English words (I understand if mispronounces of other languages happen) and honestly I am not even really talking about 'word misspronunciation' I just had problems finding the correct words and the second quote was added in 'modifications'. like I said she is doing better then in the celebrity or reunion tournament but how she is inconsistent is kind of scary since we do not know she will sound bad next season. I would love to hear of anyone feelings about the diction in general. (to be fair though Ken Jennings was not the miracle of diction either when he first came, even though I love him as a host.) Mike Richards was really the only one that sounded like a host (except he blew it in other ways and I am really only going by voice only finding out about him after 'his appearance'.) and I hate to think The possibility of everyone's sounding less polished was to make him sound good, I hope what I just said was ridiculous I really do. can they not find anyone that gone to broadcasting school or anything. maybe Austin Creed from this segment ( might begin considered saving this is a official sanctioned video. maybe they should have had him be a guest host at some point. of course if I was to choose a host that would probably be closest to Alex it might possibly be Dwyane Wade from the cube. but even like I said female host the The chase is a female also the host of Press your luck and they are fine without a complaint box a story high. actually after all of this Elizabeth from Press your Luck would be great. She is amazing at reading and at the speed that can work for the show.
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Various news stories (such as this one from Variety (https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/jeopardy-winners-tournament-of-champions-writers-strike-1235679799/)) are gaining traction in the past few days concerning a possible boycott of the upcoming Tournament of Champions for next season, which brought up a post from the Jeopardy subreddit on Reddit from 13-day champion Ray Lalonde (the original poster of the post on Reddit who is an IATSE member who works in scenic design), leading a group of qualified contestants from this past season in solidarity with the striking WGA writers who have decided not to participate in the upcoming annual Tournament of Champions. This solidary with the writers follows reports from late last week that the show may recycle old clues if the ongoing WGA strike remains unresolved by the time taping begins for next season.
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Much as a uniform annual TOC would be a net positive, it would be worse if not impossible to attempt it if, in fact, few would show up. More harm than good for the show. So be it..move on to recycled content and new shows with regular gameplay.
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The controversy is being kept alive by so-called fans who keep showing the same ignorance for the rules. The news sites showing the same disregard for the judges don’t help matters.
It’s like blaming an umpire for striking out. You accomplish nothing, you look stupid doing it, but it’s the easiest thing to do.
technically they do allow 'phonetic spelling'. some thing I know since I am also bad in spelling. I am personally on the side of them allowing it. I probably would have been more passionate if this was not go 2 for him (since he came back already) and go 3 would be awkward. when I watch the performance that's how it sounded. (and this was chosen by the teacher for University)
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ABC's fall schedule (https://deadline.com/2023/08/ken-jennings-to-host-celebrity-jeopardy-abc-premiere-date-1235524032/) has gone through some adjustments as Season 2 of Celebrity Jeopardy (now hosted by Ken Jennings and with already written clues from before the Writer's Guild of America strike began.) will premiere on Wednesday, September 27 at 8 pm, followed by Celebrity Wheel of Fortune and The $100,000 Pyramid.