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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => Carey Era => The Price WAS Right => Season 41 => Topic started by: Roadgeek Adam on May 03, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
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Where ever the show got that peanut butter from, I want to never shop there. That price absolutely blew me away. I know peanut butter; I use tons of it.
During Secret "X," I was actually wondering whether they'd put the X on the bottom, since it was for a car, or if they'd put the X in the middle, since it was a kids' show, and Mike wouldn't want to be mean on a kids' show. I guess he would be, though :P.
Sally did not bother me. She wasn't the most polite kid there, but then, she's ten. I don't really expect kids to not act like kids. Kids not having the tact adults have just kinda' goes with the territory.
Eazy az 1-2-3 is quite fitting on a kids' show :oldlol:. For that matter, I found it interesting that all 6 games played involved moving props around, I have to imagine on purpose. Playing with various stuff is just so kid-friendly. It makes sense that they did it that way, really :).
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The show was kind of so-so for me. It's too bad the results weren't better.
I will cut Sally slack for being a kid, although, really, she was old enough to know better. Maybe the whole atmosphere and everything got to her. It gets to some adults sometimes.
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A shame we weren't all that close in today's big three PGs (Let 'Em Roll, PL!NKO & Secret X), but it was nice to see Erin Payne compete on another game show (she previously was on "Don't Forget the Lyrics!" w/ Wayne Brady & "The Singing Bee" w/ Melissa Peterman).
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This episode ultimately turned out to be just boring. They didn't overdo it on gimmicks or have Connor or Adam's kids on like I expected they might, it was just a normal show with kids. Playing kid-interactive games that they could get involved in. This did lead to a unique lineup with lots of games that have been underplayed this season, so I appreciate that part. On the other hand, there really aren't that many interactive games out there, plus having kids involved when pricing a car probably isn't a good idea (glad they left that out today), so this limits them if they want to do more kids specials in the future, though they probably will.
Setups overall were a bit disappointing. On a special you're advertising this heavily, both car games shouldn't be set up for losses. In particular, just let Roll play out - that's going to get lost a lot anyway plus the kid might even be able to help if the products are obvious! And I've stated before that I disagree with Secret X for a car being used on principle (on a 2-car day anyway), and this does nothing to change my mind (because let's face it, the X is always going to be on the bottom). While it's not interactive, a kid might be entertained enough by Cliffy for them to use it anyway, and it would be fairer. I'm sure there are other games I'm missing too. Just poorly thought out.
The poor sportsmanship during the 2nd showcase showdown should have been edited out. Yes, a kid will say that, but I would hope their parent would be on them! And since this parent wasn't, just edit out - throw in random camera shots of Drew and wipe the audio, do whatever you have to do. That just seems out of the spirit of the show. Other than that, the kids were very well behaved though! This really wasn't the nightmare some thought it would be because they did plan for it very well, it just turned out to be blah instead. Just let the car games play out and maybe it's more than blah.
Timings:
Balance Game (4) - 3:40
Let 'em Roll (5.5) - 5:44
Plinko (5.5) - 5:37
Eazy as 123 (4) - 4:33
Secret X (4.5) - 4:29
Side By Side (3.5) - 2:36
Total (27): 25:39
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Not the train-wreck some expected it to be, overall a decent show.
Balance Game setup easily for a Trip to Disney World was the perfect way to start off the show.
Holy crap was that Peanut Butter nasty.
Secret "X" was a very nice surprise, especially for a Car!
Sally was beyond obnoxious, to the point where it became embarrassing. I know she's just a kid, but if we can judge Connor for just getting in the way, it is fair game to judge Sally for acting the (10 times worse) way she did during today's show. Also, even the kids who were younger than her acted better than her, that should say something.
Fun to note, originally Drew gave a promo for big money week after the Showcases. Today, they edited that out for obvious reasons. I myself hoped they would leave it in just for shiggles. :P
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About the last thing I expected this to be was boring. They had assets to use to at least try to liven things up, and yet it came off as doing it for the sake of doing it.
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I think we can all agree that this was a bad idea............
The majority of games were pretty much a damn cakewalk (excluding Plinko and Roll)............The aptly-named (considering today) Easy As 1-2-3 and Balance Game were a obvious cinch.
However, some of the others really had me shaking my head:
On Let 'Em Roll, I noticed something with one of the grocery items............I ask you, "Who in their right mind would waste over six bucks for peanut butter?!" And if there is such a person, I'd like to meet him/her. That was pretty cruel to make that expensive, either way. I could've gotten PB at Wal-Mart for 1/2 off that price, if not much less than that.
Side-By-Side was just had me reeling...............A pair of go-karts are not worth $9855 (Duh......), so Sarah and Sally should've seen the writing on the wall on that one.
Plus, if anyone knew that the Secret X was gonna be on the bottom, say, "aye."
Overall, it was what many had expected, and lot of us shouldn't be that surprised. On the bright side, at least the kids (not including Sally, unfortunately) did behave themselves, and I guess considering the outcome of this unnecessary special, that's saying a whole lot. But come on.......Even though the car games were easy enough to win (and besides, God forbid Mike and Adam would want to put TTM, Cover-Up, or Stack in the lineup), at least one of them should've been won.........Especially Secret X.
Overall, it was what it was: A total bore.
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Side-By-Side was just had me reeling...............A pair of go-karts are not worth $9855 (Duh......)
You're on a bad streak here, please stop. I mean it. ~Prizes
To quote vadernader,
$3.49 * 2 = $6.98, which rounds to $7. Is $7 even?
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Your arrogance hasn't faltered, I see. Explain why this is dumb?
To quote vadernader,
$3.49 * 2 = $6.98, which rounds to $7. Is $7 even?
I never said I was arrogant. Side was a easy set-up, is all.............Besides, I don't recall a pair of go-karts being worth $9800+, anyway.
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I don't remember seeing that happen on Let Em Roll before (having to re-roll a die because it landed on top of some others diagonally). Though it is probably far from the first time it has happened.
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I've said this before, but I think the way I view this special is that...it didn't really make much of a difference to me compared to most other episodes, other than the extra contestants. I sort of viewed this as a standard Price episode that happened to have kids, which I think is how mostly Drew hosted it as well. So I viewed the show on its own merit which was...ok.
I wonder if Carter knows he's in the history books for now as youngest contestant ever. Should be pretty cool, and if the 10 year rule applies, he only would be 18 by the time he'd get to play again.
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I think we can all agree that this was a bad idea............
Actually, no, we can't all agree on that.
The majority of games were pretty much a damn cakewalk (excluding Plinko and Roll)............The aptly-named (considering today) Easy As 1-2-3 and Balance Game were a obvious cinch.
How are 2 games (or even 3) out of 6 a majority? Secret "X" was hard, Roll was hard, Plinko was Plinko.
Side-By-Side was just had me reeling...............A pair of go-karts are not worth $9855 (Duh......), so Sarah and Sally should've seen the writing on the wall on that one.
We've had BMS's that were $5,000 each on the show before, these were just not those.
I don't recall a pair of go-karts being worth $9800+, anyway.
Link (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=18849.0). Those BMS Sand Snipers look similar to the King Cobra's on the show today, and are $5,495 Each. Source: A LMAD Episode (http://gskingdom.blogspot.com/2012/06/642012-results.html)
Yeah, it was an easy set-up, but it was not "DUH......." worthy.
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Actually, no, we can't all agree on that.
How are 2 games (or even 3) out of 6 a majority? Secret "X" was hard, Roll was hard, Plinko was Plinko.
We've had BMS's that were $5,000 each on the show before, these were just not those.
Link (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php?topic=18849.0). Those BMS Sand Snipers look similar to the King Cobra's on the show today, and are $5,495 Each. Source: A LMAD Episode (http://gskingdom.blogspot.com/2012/06/642012-results.html)
Yeah, it was an easy set-up, but it was not "DUH......." worthy.
Then, I guess it is just that: Just a easy set-up, and not "Duh"-worthy. I really didn't try to make The Kids Special to come off as a bad idea, but some people were afraid that it would be just that..........And I would've assumed that the "X" being on the bottom (seeing that it was played for automobile) was common to everyone, but I see now that's totally not the case. Seems I was relying a lot on gut feelings and intuitions instead. No disrespect towards anyone, and I want to leave it as that.
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Then, I guess it is just that: Just a easy set-up, and not "Duh"-worthy. I really didn't try to make The Kids Special to come off as a bad idea, but some people were afraid that it would be just that..........And I would've assumed that the "X" being on the bottom (seeing that it was played for automobile) was common to everyone, but I see now that's totally not the case. Seems I was relying a lot on gut feelings and intuitions instead. No disrespect towards anyone, and I want to leave it as that.
Oh, you're fine. I never thought you were being disrespectful at all. Yeah, Secret "X" having the X on the bottom was clearly where it was going to be today, even though I hoped it might not. :P
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Yay for not having school today.
Today's show was okay, there weren't as many wins as I'd hoped and luck certainly wasn't on the contestants' side today.
Setups were good, although Secret X was tricky, and that peanut butter shouldn't have been used.
Side-by-Side was totally set up to be won.
Lineup was pretty good. I enjoyed seeing Secret X especially for a CAR and some of the rarer games, but did anyone else think it was weird having Roll and Plinko back-to-back?
The prizes they used were good, definitely fit the theme without being overbearing.
The CBS station down here talked to one of the contestants (the Let em' Roll two) and talked about their day. The biggest thing they talked was the peanut butter call although they did mention the cue card call down. BTW, what other game shows has the mom (Erin) been on?
It just felt like a regular show today, for better or worse.
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And I would've assumed that the "X" being on the bottom (seeing that it was played for automobile) was common to everyone, but I see now that's totally not the case.
It's only common knowledge to us. Normal contestants do not make any connection with the prize to the location of the X.
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Oh, you're fine. I never thought you were being disrespectful at all. Yeah, Secret "X" having the X on the bottom was clearly where it was going to be today, even though I hoped it might not. :P
Then, I guess we should be thankful that it didn't come off to be any more worse as some would want to lead on. Still, I'd like to see a car being won today, though.
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Why did they let a girl like Sally on the show? She was being disrespectful to other contestants during the wheel spin and rude to her mom throughout the entire show.
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Recap posted. (Been a hell day here, so bad I just put the filename as May 4, not May 3 :| )
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For the record, the Glastron had a 115HP Yamaha engine, not a 150HP one. (I know it may be picking nits, but there is a huge price difference. :P)
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Pretty blah overall, IMHO.
How the heck is peanut butter $6+!? ??? 8-O I've been questioning their pricing information on their grocery items a lot lately.
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How the heck is peanut butter $6+!? ??? 8-O I've been questioning their pricing information on their grocery items a lot lately.
It's a 28oz Container (http://www.amazon.com/Skippy-Peanut-Butter-Creamy-28/dp/B000RYC9GM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1367614197&sr=8-3&keywords=Skippy+28oz), bigger than the average 15oz'er.
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Ohhhhhh my goodness... I'm so happy Sally won. "GO OVER! GO OVER! GO OVER!" had me :lol: :lol: :lol:
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How the heck is peanut butter $6+!? ??? 8-O I've been questioning their pricing information on their grocery items a lot lately.
They apparently bought that peanut butter at the country's most expensive grocery store. When a 28 oz. jar there costs more than a 40 oz. jar here, it's pretty bad.
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Ohhhhhh my goodness... I'm so happy Sally won. "GO OVER! GO OVER! GO OVER!" had me :lol: :lol: :lol:
haha Sally reminded me of that one really demanding girl from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
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For the record, the Glastron had a 115HP Yamaha engine, not a 150HP one. (I know it may be picking nits, but there is a huge price difference. :P)
Damn it, I heard 150, probably tired ears. :P
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-Content Removed. You're better than this, Torgs, let's not promote that. ~Prizes-
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Sally was just doing what every adult contestant has thought to themselves for the past 40 years. To quote Art Linkletter, "Kids say the darnest things."
That being said, for some reason, I wanted Tracey and Ethan in position #4 to get on stage. Ethan seemed like he knew his stuff, but kept falling short.
$6 peanut butter, that's a bargain in Canada...
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The CBS station down here talked to one of the contestants (the Let em' Roll two) and talked about their day. The biggest thing they talked was the peanut butter call although they did mention the cue card call down. BTW, what other game shows has the mom (Erin) been on?
I actually found out a while back that Erin Payne actually has her own YouTube channel where she uploaded those past game show appearances of hers, and here it is right here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ergirlsinger
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought there were general regulations saying that if you appeared on any game show within the past X number of years, you cannot be on any one again until that time is up. I might be thinking of something else, though.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought there were general regulations saying that if you appeared on any game show within the past X number of years, you cannot be on any one again until that time is up. I might be thinking of something else, though.
You are correct, it is not a big number though, I believe it might even be 1 year for someone trying to be on Price.
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You may not have been on any one game show (national, local, or otherwise) in the past year, or more than two in the past 10.
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Okay, Mike, I've got two suggestions for you:
1. Next time you do this, make the setups easy, so that the show can be kid-friendly in terms of wins.
2. Never do this again.
This show just went wrong. Never mind that there was no business setting up LER for 2 rolls on a kids' show; there is no reason anyone should be giving up $4,000 for a 1/16 chance at a car... but of course, a kid's going to want to roll again even if there was $7,500 on the table. And having to have the parents make the final decision, whether or not they're influenced by the kids, just makes for some awkward moments all around.
I'm normally pretty accepting of the weird stuff that the Price folks try to do. This was just painful to watch, though.
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Wow. That certainly was...um...something.
I know there are times when you take your kid seriously and other times when you don't, but I think Erin may need to swap hers around. She ignored her son when he was giving her the right answer for the peanut butter, thereby costing them a third roll...but when he wanted her to roll four cubes again instead of quitting with $4,000, then she listened to him.
There are moments when I merely dislike Drew, and then there are moments when I genuinely wonder what the hell is wrong with him. Mocking Jacquelyn for being overly polite to him before Plinko definitely falls into the latter category.
10 years from now, when his twins graduate from college, Marc will be able to pull out their recording of this episode and show everyone the time they yelled, "I want to put it down!" and talked over the host of The Price Is Right so they could argue over whose bedroom their prizes would go in if they won their pricing game, all on national television.
Sally was a brat. There is no excuse for some obnoxious kid chanting, "Go over! Go over! Go over!" while somebody else is spinning the Big Wheel, and the only thing more disgusting than the fact that it even happened is that her mother didn't immediately slap her across the face and march her out of the studio. My mother would have killed me if I'd pulled something like that. They should both be ashamed of themselves, and the fact that they ended up winning the Showcase, especially instead of Suzanne and Jacquelyn, is an absolute travesty.
If you go to a whole lot of extra effort to promote your big "We have kids on for the first time ever!!!" episode, and the most interesting thing about it ends up being that Balance Game got played first, you are probably doing something wrong.
I will say that Jacquelyn came off as mature for her age and seemed like a very nice person. She was the only kid who stood out for any positive reason, and I sincerely hope the rest of her life goes better than Plinko did.
Overall, though, this episode did not reflect well on the contestants, the kids, or the show itself. Mark Goodson is probably rolling over in his grave tonight.
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there is no reason anyone should be giving up $4,000 for a 1/16 chance at a car...
For what it is worth, I would give up $4,000 for a 1/16 chance at a car. Then again, I'm a nut and a gambler and would also risk upwards of $10,000, so there's that too. :P
However, yeah, kids are just going to want to roll it out, and I don't necessarily blame them. $4,000 isn't going to pay for much of College in the year 2022. :P
Mark Goodson is probably rolling over in his grave tonight.
Mark must be a very busy man, constantly rolling over in his grave over every episode of Price that someone on here deems roll-worthy. ;)
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I'm not a fan of"playing in pairs." specials and much prefer TPIR be played individually. But I loved Sally. I loved her "go over" chants. Were I a contestant I would've done the same thing or close to. The other players spinning the wheel are your OPPONENTS. You're SUPPOSED to want your opponents to go over so you can advance to the showcase. I LOVED the way Sally expressed this and was happy to see Sally and her mom win the showcase.
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Except that rooting for another contestant to fail is completely against the spirit of the show. Price is a happy show. You're supposed to root for your fellow contestants to do well. Everyone's in it together. It's not about the prizes, or even winning...it's about the experience. It doesn't matter if you win or lose. What matters is that you were on The Price is Right, and that you had a good time. Having somebody else screaming and openly rooting for you to fail ruins that experience.
Besides, it's unsportsmanlike. Wanting to win is fine...but screaming "GO OVER!" makes you come off as a sore loser. Nobody likes a sore loser.
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But I loved Sally. I loved her "go over" chants. Were I a contestant I would've done the same thing or close to. The other players spinning the wheel are your OPPONENTS. You're SUPPOSED to want your opponents to go over so you can advance to the showcase. I LOVED the way Sally expressed this and was happy to see Sally and her mom win the showcase.
Then I sincerely hope you are never a contestant, because seeing that once was way more than enough.
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Except that rooting for another contestant to fail is completely against the spirit of the show. Price is a happy show. You're supposed to root for your fellow contestants to do well. Everyone's in it together. It's not about the prizes, or even winning...it's about the experience. It doesn't matter if you win or lose. What matters is that you were on The Price is Right, and that you had a good time. Having somebody else screaming and openly rooting for you to fail ruins that experience.
Besides, it's unsportsmanlike. Wanting to win is fine...but screaming "GO OVER!" makes you come off as a sore loser. Nobody likes a sore loser.
It's just goes to show you that nobody likes a "Debbie Downer", a "Negative Nancy", or whatever.............
So the way Sally was acting really indicates that she doesn't really understand the concept on how a game show is supposed to be: It is about winning. It is about having fun. It is about rooting for the contestant to go all the way. However, it is not about trying be a jinx and ruin it for everybody.
She might not know that right now, seeing that she's just a kid, but when she gets to be 18 or 20 (Depending on "the coming back after 10 years" thing) and be legal to participate again on Price or any other game show, it's a possibility that she will in time.
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I will admit, I actually kind of liked how Sally was expressing her desire for the others to go over, because we all know that's what all the other contestants are thinking while watching others spin. :P
Well, there's also how Drew always seems to cheer for the current spinner to beat the current leader, even though of course the current leader wants to win, too.
Not saying what Sally did was what good girls should do, but this episode was enough of a trainwreck that at that point, I just didn't care.
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I've seen bull riding wrecks that weren't as painful to watch as this episode.
Completely agree with Steve about Goodson rolling over in this grave.
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It IS about winning. You play to win the game. Hello! You play to win the game!
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It IS about winning. You play to win the game. Hello! You play to win the game!
...There is a difference between playing to win and being a poor sport and obnoxious. Rooting for yourself to win is different than rooting for someone else to lose.
Put yourself in the other persons place. Would you enjoy getting yelled at "GO OVER GO OVER GO OVER"?
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It IS about winning. You play to win the game. Hello! You play to win the game!
Hello, Herm Edwards.
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The 7,823rd episode (140th for Season 41)
Showcase #1
- Camping Equipment: $1,143
- Kelty's last appearance before 2013: November 20, 2006 (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,1696.msg29687.html#msg29687). This means that the Kids episode is the first Kelty with Drew.
- Trip to San Diego: $2,766
- Glastron MX 180BR: $26,614
My bid: $33,652 (D'oh!)
Showcase #2
- Trip to Jamaica: $7,896
- Honda Civic: $18,765
My bid: $26,419 (Difference of $242 :dsw:)
Modeling Totals: May 3, 2013 (OSAD 4/18)
Records (past shows intended for April 18)
High: $91,969 (2003)
Low: $19,832 (2003)
Manuela Arbeláez
Total: 8/$49,574.00 (6/$28,428.00, 2/$21,146.00)
Cars: 1 :pint:/$21,090.00 (0/$0.00, 1/$21,090.00)
Trips: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
Amber Lancaster
Total: 10/$38,342.00 (7/$16,708.00, 3/$21,634.00)
Cars: 1/$18,765.00 (0/$0.00, 1/$18,765.00)
Trips: 2/$11,083.00 (2/$11,083.00, 0/$0.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
Rob Wilson
Total: 6/$35,524.00 (3/$5,439.00, 3/$30,085.00)
Cars: 1/$19,390.00 (0/$0.00, 1/$19,390.00)
Trips: 1/$7,896.00 (0/$0.00, 1/$7,896.00)
Cash Prizes: 0/$0.00 (0/$0.00, 0/$0.00)
All Prizes
Total: 25/$175,427.00 (17/$55,062.00, 8/$120,365.00)
Cars: 3/$59,245.00 (0/$0.00, 3/$59,245.00)
Trips: 3/$18,979.00 (2/$11,083.00, 1/$7,896.00)
Cash Prizes: 1/$50,000.00 (0/$2,500.00, 1/$47,500.00)
Season to date
Manuela Arbeláez (142 shows)
Total: 1,340/$7,454,931.11 (825/$2,942,140.49, 515/$4,512,790.62)
Cars: 143/$3,415,953.00 (41/$889,745.00, 102/$2,526,208.00)
Trips: 164/$1,382,835.00 (83/$696,405.00, 81/$686,430.00)
Cash Prizes: 30/$415,689.00 (8/$81,039.00, 22/$334,650.00)
Amber Lancaster (133 shows)
Total: 1,068/$6,968,328.00 (696/$2,899,090.00, 372/$4,069,238.00)
Cars: 141/$3,115,748.00 (44/$952,123.00, 97/$2,163,625.00)
Trips: 161/$1,338,336.00 (98/$790,241.00, 63/$548,095.00)
Cash Prizes: 23/$536,449.00 (6/$65,449.00, 17/$471,000.00)
Rob Wilson (60 shows)
Total: 446/$2,636,638.00 (312/$1,289,787.00, 134/$1,346,851.00)
Cars: 64/$1,278,409.00 (23/$484,276.00, 41/$794,133.00)
Trips: 45/$392,465.00 (27/$247,878.00, 18/$144,587.00)
Cash Prizes: 6/$91,500.00 (1/$19,500.00, 5/$72,000.00)
All Prizes (146 shows)
Total: 3,896/$24,391,793.41 (2,420/$9,486,365.22, 1,476/$14,905,428.19)
Cars: 448/$9,920,219.00 (143/$3,076,973.00, 305/$6,843,246.00)
Trips: 497/$4,147,470.00 (279/$2,314,459.00, 218/$1,833,011.00)
Cash Prizes: 143/$4,037,105.00 (31/$510,127.00, 112/$3,526,978.00)
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Missed this show the first time around. Just getting to see it now on the rerun, and the "go over" kid has had her moment.
To be honest, hey, kids are going to be more unpredictable than adults in what they say. OK, maybe she shouldn't have rooted for that out loud (for 2 seconds), but when no one's ever done that before, it doesn't always enter your mind that someone of any age might actually do that. That's not a defense of her, not an attack on maturity, either. I really don't think that one thing is enough to derail this as being a bad show. If nothing else, now that it has happened, you can discourage others from doing it. It's an easy enough fix. Leave the kid alone.
This show was simple, nice and fine. I'm neither here nor there on doing it again next year, but if they want to, you have a precedent now on how to improve it.
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They actually aired the brat twice?
Wow. Idiots.
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They actually aired the brat twice?
Wow. Idiots.
This made me laugh out loud. You just made my day, Steve (I purposefully overslept just to miss this episode).
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Of course they had to show that again today. :rollold:
They actually aired the brat twice?
Wow. Idiots.
Times like this that she should've gotten a time-out. :tongue:
Funny enough, they re-aired a family-themed LMAD today that was a lot better than this.
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Saw it for the first time today. The way the show went generally, it seemed pointless to even have the kids there. Good or bad prices aside, there were two instances in which the parent overriding the kid's decision potentially cost them the game. This was blatantly obvious with Side By Side (set up for a win)... say what you will about Sally's poor sportsmanship here but the mom went against her and it ended up costing them. Then with the disastrous peanut butter, the kid said "more" very convincingly and the mom had no hesitation in going against him... guess what. I knew on the second roll they'd end up with a low dollar amount.
I may have missed the thread, but am I right in that they mic every single contestant who makes it onto the stage? Sally's "go over, go over" may be a good example as to why this practice might not be the most prudent choice.
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They actually aired the brat twice?
Wow. Idiots.
You didn't really think they would actually judge the quality of a rerun special, did you?
"IT'S A SPECIAL, GOTTA RE-AIR IT ASAP" :oldlol:
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You didn't really think they would actually judge the quality of a rerun special, did you?
I was sort of hoping they'd have the sense to cut the audio the second time around.