CSS Results for 10/16/2013 (Game 18)

[therealcu2010]

Clearly some of us have forgotten how much Cyprus costs.

All but six people recorded garfs on the second showcase, with said Cyprus trip. Those who did remember that it's expensive did fairly well on it, however, especially vadernader, who scores the win for the day with our first single-digit difference of the season, a very impressive $6 DSW. Well done!

On the other side, a fairly standard two-prize showcase, one that everyone did fairly well on...and that four people recorded DSWs on. AMGray1986 scores his first DSW of the year with a $235 difference. The StagePlayer and goldroadfanatic each record their second DSWs with a $157 difference. Finally, GoldenBulldog $10-upped both of them and scored, cashing both showcases with a $147 difference.

And futility continues for poor jacaya and Footix.

[jacaya]

Actually... futility for me is on "part two" because I DID cash and score once.

[GoldenBulldog]

My StagePlayer DSW'ing-upping strategy worked again!  Woo-hoo!!

[DJTorgo]

My StagePlayer DSW'ing-upping strategy worked again!  Woo-hoo!!

I still think it's shameful to just up the stage player.

[vadernader]

My StagePlayer DSW'ing-upping strategy worked again!  Woo-hoo!!

I still think it's shameful to just up the stage player.

Agreed. It's pretty much equivalent to just watching the chat for bids and upping someone there. Not exactly "against the rules" - but should be frowned upon.

[GoldenBulldog]

I still think it's shameful to just up the stage player.

That's what you're supposed to do, right?  Make sure that the StagePlayer doesn't have the best bid of the day? 

Here's my take on it:  I could've just as easily added $100 to my bid, but I felt as if I was risking a WSD by adding that much to it.  So I made the judgement call to add $10 extra (a little spending dough, perhaps? ) feeling that Stagey was gonna DSW with a sub-$100 difference.  I don't cheat to win this damn game; I've been playing for six years now.  I understand that certain folks might call my strategy wrong, but to me, it's simply a gut feeling that I had to act on.

[vadernader]

That's what you're supposed to do, right?  Make sure that the StagePlayer doesn't have the best bid of the day? 

Here's my take on it:  I could've just as easily added $100 to my bid, but I felt as if I was risking a WSD by adding that much to it.  So I made the judgement call to add $10 extra (a little spending dough, perhaps? ) feeling that Stagey was gonna DSW with a sub-$100 difference.  I don't cheat to win this damn game; I've been playing for six years now.  I understand that certain folks might call my strategy wrong, but to me, it's simply a gut feeling that I had to act on.

I always thought the point was to make bids that you thought were the best you could come up with and not to worry about such stuff as what other players are bidding or what Stage Player has bid until after everything is revealed and when all the results are said & done. If you thought $22,500 was a winning bid you should have bid that irregardless of what Stage Player bids. Again, I go back to the aforementioned scenario. If "Stage Player" was some user in chat, and you saw they bid $22,500 and though they would DSW, bidding $22,510 isn't exactly against the rules or cheating, it is more frowned upon than anything else. Their bid should not influence your bid.

That being said, it is entirely possible to end up upping the Stage Player by pure coincidence, both thinking up the same price or not knowing what Stage Player bid and bidding a random amount that happens to up them - however in this case you made it clear it wasn't that case in a braggadocious way So yeah.

[nowhammies11]

I don't think vadernader has any standing being the CSS Rules Police, as he is not the moderator (among other reasons).  If what GoldenBulldog did is not against the rules as set out in the rules thread, he is in the clear.

[therealcu2010]

Bulldog has been around the game for a long time...longer than me, even. If that's the way he chooses to play, so be it. End of discussion.

So long as he is not cheating, he's fine.

[DJTorgo]

I think what Vader's trying to get at is that yes, it's a frowned-upon strategy, but he realizes that it's perfectly legal.  It's the gloating about it.  You don't see soldiers being called "military strategists" for being told where the enemy is firing from and adjusting accordingly.

Bragging about one-upping Stage Player is like bragging about one-upping a baby, and I imagine it has about the same win ratio.

Stupid babies and their knowledge of boats.

[Punchboard91]

As someone who has been playing CSS off and on for years, I have to agree with Torgo and Vader. I'm not saying at all he's cheating...but it goes against the spirit of the game. It's like when Fieldsy said she looked up car prices....not technically against the rules since it can't be enforced, but since the whole point of the game is to bid like the show, without the internet, it's frowned upon.

Personally, I always bid whatever I think it is, ignoring Stagey's bids. So if I'm $20 under them, oh well. Maybe they'll WSD anyway. So if Bulldog wants to one up stagey, it's legal....but I don't think many will appreciate it, let alone bragging about it.

[therealcu2010]

It's like when Fieldsy said she looked up car prices....not technically against the rules since it can't be enforced, but since the whole point of the game is to bid like the show, without the internet, it's frowned upon.

Looking up car prices during CSS is very much against the rules now!

[BRB_TheFireball]

For years, Willy has openly frowned upon CSS players who "sandbag" their bids (that is, intentionally garfing so as to guarantee scoring), but that's also not illegal.  I'm just saying...