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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: Pushover72 on October 04, 2011, 11:11:12 AM
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I use this facetious question as a thread name for the basis of a very worrisome realization I came to in the last four months…”Does anybody care (besides us) that The Price Is Right is on and do most people even know that the show is still on?”
I watched my last episode of The Price Is Right about six months ago (I finally had enough of the “new direction”) and I stopped visiting this site completely about four months ago. I was a fan that knew everything about the show (yes, even the fonts!) and I never, until recent years, missed an episode. TPIR was a big part of my life. However, during these last four months when I was no longer exposed to constant chatter and discussion about all things Price is Right I discovered that there is a big world out there that does not think nor talk about The Price is Right…there is no talk, no chatter, no mention of TPIR.. If I brought up the show in conversation, the response was something like “I used to watch the show as a kid” and then many would ask the question “Is the Price is Right still on?”
Other than the 3 million-plus that currently watch the show daily and the members of this board, the show seems to have become irrelevant and/or non-existent, in my observation, to much of the general public.
I came to the realization something was wrong after the 40th season began 2 weeks ago. For a TV show to last 40 seasons is a big deal…no, it’s bigger than a big deal…it’s AWESOME…it SUPER-STUPENDOUS…it’s HISTORIC!!!. How many shows make it to 40 years---very,very, few!!
However, nothing was made of this momentous moment. It seemed as if no one, including the media, cared. There was no mention of it in TV Guide (and they print everything and anything). There was no mention in, Entertainment Weekly and no mention of it in USA Today. There were no AP newspaper articles. Nobody talked about it (except here on this board). If you do a news search on Google, one only gets a handful of minor references to it. If there was a promo on CBS, or a PR piece on one of those entertainment news shows, I missed it.
The premiere show came and went and I didn’t even know it. I heard about it thru a friend a week later. I would have thought that CBS would have built a primetime special around such an impressive milestone in a program’s life.
I remember when the show used to be the default program in waiting rooms. If it was 10 AM, the show was playing on those ubiquitous overhead TV’s as we waited to get our car washed or our car lubed. Now, waiting rooms have mostly CNN on or those obnoxious ladies of The View.
So…does CBS itself care anymore about its iconic TV show?
Price is Right used to be my favorite show and even though I no longer care for it, I find it sad that it seems to be slowly fading out of the daily consciousness of the American public. It seems to have become more of a memory than a living breathing show. It seems to be a show most people talk about in the past tense.
Which brings me to the next question…Whose fault is this?
Is this CBS’s fault for not promoting the show?
Is it Drew Carey’s fault for not making more TV appearances so he can talk about the show (Bob was great at doing this).
Is it the show itself for having morphed into a different type of show that people don’t care for anymore.
But I hope it isn’t what would be the saddest reason of all…that “The Price Is Right” simply has worn out its welcome…that after 39 years people are finally done with the show.
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So…does CBS itself care anymore about its iconic TV show?
If they didn't, they wouldn't be running the promos that they have.
Which brings me to the next question…Whose fault is this?
Apparently yours for not paying attention.
Is this CBS’s fault for not promoting the show?
They have been. They are promoting daytime in daytime, nighttime in nighttime.
Is it Drew Carey’s fault for not making more TV appearances so he can talk about the show (Bob was great at doing this).
Do you know for a fact that anyone has asked him and he's been declining? You don't.
Is it the show itself for having morphed into a different type of show that people don’t care for anymore.
Harping on this issue, are you? I've been recording and watching lately and I don't see ONE DAMN THING that has changed.
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A year or so ago, the show came on the TV in the waiting room where I was getting my car serviced. The woman sitting next to me said, "Is that still on? I thought they took that off when Bob Barker died." The guy next to her said, "No, it's still on, but that new guy, Jim Carey, isn't any good." And then I let her know that Bob was still alive but retired.
I don't think the show is declining any faster than anything else on broadcast network daytime, but the network is probably a lot more interested in promoting the more profitable prime-time lineup. And I don't think most TV shows' anniversaries are that big a deal to the media - whether it's TPIR, a soap that's run even longer than TPIR, or 60 Minutes.So I don't think there's much cause for concern because of that.
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40 years would be a big deal if Barker were still hosting. Once he retired, the streak basically ended, as far as pop culture is concerned. The Tonight Show celebrated its collective 50th anniversary in 2004, and I don't think they made an enormous deal out of that either. Whatever specials they've done for that show have been based on how long Johnny or Jay were hosting, not the overall show.
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They have been. They are promoting daytime in daytime, nighttime in nighttime.
They are also promoting nighttime in daytime. The numerous promos for that nights lineup nicely welcome me to the show, from almost every break, and after the credits. Don't see a lot of daytime in nighttime. Maybe a Y&R promo once in a blue moon.
While in a hospital waiting room, TPIR was on the television. It certainly had those waiting engaged. A lot of them were playing along, guessing prices, and talking about how Drew just wasn't as good as Bob. A lot of people still know the show is around, but in most cases they just glance over it now.
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40 years would be a big deal if Barker were still hosting. Once he retired, the streak basically ended, as far as pop culture is concerned. The Tonight Show celebrated its collective 50th anniversary in 2004, and I don't think they made an enormous deal out of that either. Whatever specials they've done for that show have been based on how long Johnny or Jay were hosting, not the overall show.
I'm glad Drew carey took over as the host of the show because when barker was hosting he wasn't as funny as drew carey is.
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Harping on this issue, are you? I've been recording and watching lately and I don't see ONE DAMN THING that has changed.
Then you're amen blind.
You do a wonderful job every time you post of destroying what little credibility you have left.
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They are also promoting nighttime in daytime. The numerous promos for that nights lineup nicely welcome me to the show, from almost every break, and after the credits. Don't see a lot of daytime in nighttime. Maybe a Y&R promo once in a blue moon.
Probably because a bazillion more people watch nighttime shows. :P
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However, during these last four months when I was no longer exposed to constant chatter and discussion about all things Price is Right I discovered that there is a big world out there that does not think nor talk about The Price is Right…there is no talk, no chatter, no mention of TPIR.. If I brought up the show in conversation, the response was something like “I used to watch the show as a kid” and then many would ask the question “Is the Price is Right still on?”
If you'd spent more time in the 'real world', you'd realize that this has actually been going on for at least the last ten years. Very few people with day jobs have the time/ability to watch Price anymore, nor do they care to. There's really no reason for day-to-day Price to be water cooler talk.
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CBS allocates what looks to be a fair proportion of its promotional efforts to Price, vis a vis the rest of their schedule. But in this day and age, it's not going to get much media attention that the show passed the 40 year mark, no matter who is holding the mic. We're not going to see Jeopardy being the lead story on Brian Williams' newscast when it hits 30 either.
Lots of people, particularly the audience that matters, had forgotten about the show long before Drew showed up. That was the reality, warts and all, that was inherited.
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As usual, you make it sound as if before Drew came along, the show was dead, dried up, and ready to blow away. That was not the case, no matter how bad you want to twist things make the pre-season 36 show look. The show was still atop the ratings, although numbers were down as they were for all of daytime television. However, in season 35, the numbers experienced a significant bump, especially around the time Bob retired, from people tuning in to see his last shows. The numbers were higher than they had been in years. When Drew first came aboard, the viewership actually increased 10% from the Bob's last show, with people tuning in to sample the new host. Within two years, the show was down more than 18%. Those are from numbers posted here in 2007 and 2008. Just had to apply a dose of Compound W to those warts you presented.
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That a show saw an abberation in ratings thanks to the transition of a long-time host is hardly unique in the history of television. It's quite common. With that abberation in mind, the overall trend was not favorable. We all know total audience decline was in rough proportion to broadcast daytime as a whole. But there isn't a media buyer out there (at least not one who wants to keep their job) who buys that way in this day & age. And on the score that matters, Price did "outpace" its rivals in the category any show would least want to "win." Clinging to a long-useless measurement doesn't change the way the real business world operates.
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When Bob retired,
A lot of the magic of TPIR died. A prerequisite for that magic to be there was having Bob as host, along with Roger as Producer. They had an understanding of Price because of their longevity with the show, and their experience with game shows that appealed to young, middle-aged, and old. Bob and Roger MADE Price special and magical, and that will never be duplicated again now that they are gone.
However, the show is far from dead, it is catering more to a younger demographic with a far-less experienced host and producer, who caters to comedy and often slapstick humor. They lack the understanding of the things that Bob and Roger did for 36 years to make the show successful. With Drew's mood-swings, bordering on bi-polar from episode to episode, and sometimes from game to game, he has to almost have a comic element for him to be interested. Even a big win in a game that should excite him, many times Drew just goes through the motions. Drew didn't even WANT to host Price, until he was offered a crap-load of money, and most days, it shows.
The biggest mistake Drew and Mike have made is they believe the show can't be fun with just a traditional format. Special guests, jazzed up strange showcases and prizes, difficult game set-ups impossible to win, "idiotic prizes" (i.e tour of Ping Pong Clubs, 2000 pairs of shoes.) stress this gimmick concept that for whatever reason, Drew and Mike feel has to be there. This process is alienating more traditional viewers than attracting new viewers, and that is why people ask, "Is the Show Still On?"
Joe
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That a show saw an abberation in ratings thanks to the transition of a long-time host is hardly unique in the history of television. It's quite common. With that abberation in mind, the overall trend was not favorable. We all know total audience decline was in rough proportion to broadcast daytime as a whole. But there isn't a media buyer out there (at least not one who wants to keep their job) who buys that way in this day & age. And on the score that matters, Price did "outpace" its rivals in the category any show would least want to "win." Clinging to a long-useless measurement doesn't change the way the real business world operates.
Once again a bunch of repetitive drivel to sidestep the fact that you didn't respond to 90% of what I said. ;-) I know you're smart, and I know you know a lot about television, but you also apparently love to mis-apply that knowledge to issues such as these. Your answers are always broad and vague, when the posts you're responding to are detailed and pointed.
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Why can people just live with the fact that Bob is gone and IS NOT coming back? What happened during Bob's days are in the past. Yes, those were the good 'ol days, but all good things must come to an end. The show was far from dead in Bob's final years. Of course, it was never like the it was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, but still, millions tuned in every day to watch. I have always said that I prefer Bob much more over Drew, and I still stick to that, but I understand that his time is over and his legacy lives on. I do not like the direction the show is going these days, but I still watch when I can (which is very rarely), but of course CBS still cares about the show; otherwise, it would have been pulled a long time ago. Bob is (was) Bob and Drew is Drew--their hosting styles are on both ends of the spectrum, but combined, they have helped to make and keep the show one of the most watch game shows on television.
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Why can people just live with the fact that Bob is gone and IS NOT coming back? What happened during Bob's days are in the past. Yes, those were the good 'ol days, but all good things must come to an end.
My lack of watching the show has nothing to do with Bob being absent from it. The show still felt like "Price" in season 36 and even in season 37. Since then, which is the last time I felt like watching regularly, life of course took over, but the show's distinctive live recorded music was replaced by stock elevator music, the intro is so short that if you blink your eye you miss it, and most of all the effort to make Price a quality game show (that existed for a season after Bob left) been all but lost because it seems more important to make it a daytime "variety show".
The only difference, I felt, between the show I went to with Bob and the shows I went to with Drew in 36 were literally the host. I enjoyed the shows with Drew a lot because he added such a young feel to the "well-oiled machine" that Price was. I have never, since Bob's departure, spent time saying it would be better if Bob was still around. I don't attribute the lost direction of the show solely to the absence of Roger either; it seems like the show still retained a lot of elements that gave it distinction in season 37. I do think, however, that decisions Mike has made since his hiring have made the show lose its quality lustre. As I mentioned earlier, the music we have now cannot even come close to replicating the specially recorded music produced for the show between 1972-1994. The 1994 music package seems like candy when compared to the castor oil we have now. Stan even added more 1994 music to the show before Mike's directives for newer music took effect.
Music is not the sole reason, but a big one. Music really adds to the atmosphere.
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For me, TPiR really has not been appointment TV for the last 2 years. Some of that is because my interests have changed, making the show less important. Some is because I prefer Bob's version. If GSN ran old eps daily, I'd probably DVR and watch them. I don't DVR the current run anymore. There are definitely some directorial things I like (a lot of the classic and inventive shots that Rich DiPirro brought to the show). But for the most part, my interest has just waned.
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If this board wasn't here, I would forget Price is still on. I haven't watched an episode, even parts of one, in at least two years. This show just isn't good anymore.
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Why can people just live with the fact that Bob is gone and IS NOT coming back? What happened during Bob's days are in the past.
Right. No one said otherwise, though. Having a discussion about how things have changed and how the show is vastly different today is not the same thing as what you seem to imply it is in the quote I've indicated.
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I have actually been watching some of the classic clips on the priceisright.com site now and, regardless of how the show looks now, I gotta say they are pretty classy to put up the classic clips. Where is Wheel's classic clips page? ;)
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If this board wasn't here, I would forget Price is still on. I haven't watched an episode, even parts of one, in at least two years. This show just isn't good anymore.
How do you know?
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TPIR has one thing going for it: it is one of the last of a breed that is, for all intents and purposes, dead. How many daytime game shows do you see on ABC or NBC these days? Prior to around 1990 there were scads of game shows on all three networks. When one show went by the wayside, another replaced it the following Monday. The replacement show was more often than not a completely new format rather than a revival. TPIR is in a most fortunate position for the current, continuous run to have made it this far.
One factor to take into account is that the show picked up a lot of buzz in the '90s when lawsuits between Barker and the models were flying back and forth. Remember the old saying about there being no such thing as bad publicity?
To those who think pushover72 has lost his credibility, well, you believe what you want to believe.
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Why can people just live with the fact that Bob is gone and IS NOT coming back?
I can certainly live with it, fellow who has "Come back Bob!" in his signature. :-P
What happened during Bob's days are in the past.
Yes, the show is no longer being produced competently. Further, Richards is doing several of the idiotic things Barker did when he was in charge.
I have actually been watching some of the classic clips on the priceisright.com site now and, regardless of how the show looks now, I gotta say they are pretty classy to put up the classic clips. Where is Wheel's classic clips page? ;)
Right here (http://"http://www.wheeloffortune.com/video/classicclips/"), but it is far less classy and does not appear to have been touched since Season 25. Go to YouTube if you actually want your classic Wheel fix. :P
To those who think pushover72 has lost his credibility, well, you believe what you want to believe.
Maybe it is only me, but "believe what you want to believe" seems to be another term for "you are wrong". ;-)
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I can certainly live with it, fellow who has "Come back Bob!" in his signature. :P
Right here (http://"http://www.wheeloffortune.com/video/classicclips/"), but it is far less classy and does not appear to have been touched since Season 25. Go to YouTube if you actually want your classic Wheel fix. :P
#1, I haven't paid attention to my signature probably since I joined and put it there. I am going to update it, I just haven't decided what I am going to put yet.
#2, you are wrong. If you go here (http://www.wheeloffortune.com/video/wheelpeople/), you will see that they have added several new clips, some of which are NOT on YT (even before Sony got rid of most of them).
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I did not mean to upset you, and I apologize if I did.
On the subject of "classic clips", I did not really count (or, to be honest, notice) the million-dollar win or I'VE GOT A GOOD FEELING ABOUT THIS as really being "classic" since I considered the definition to be "vintage", and that was my fault. (As for YouTube, I was referring to the 1970s-80s episodes and clips that aren't on the official site.)
Again, my apologies.
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As for Price, I do not really watch the new stuff unless I notice something of interest in the recap thread (such as Darren and his Professor freaking Price shirt yesterday). I typically watch whatever Wayoshi uploads, though.
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For me, my interest in Price started waning in the beginning of season 38. I kept watching for a while after Roger was let go, but I think I finally lost interest with aspects of the new direction once they fired Rich Fields. I did not watch any of season 39 at all.
I have watched the first few episodes of this season, though. It seems like they've stabilized a bit on where their new direction was headed. While I'm still not a fan of some of the changes that have been made to the show, there are some aspects that I do appreciate and welcome the change.
But in answering the broad question of the thread: The show is not over in my eyes, but it's not the appointment television for me that it once was. It used to be that I'd schedule my college classes such to avoid the 10am hour if at all possible. Last year, it was feasible for me to watch almost 5 days a week all season, but didn't really care that much--and while I've been DVRing it lately, it's not high priority for me to watch. In any event, I certainly wish continued success for the show, whatever my viewing habits of it are.
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One factor to take into account is that the show picked up a lot of buzz in the '90s when lawsuits between Barker and the models were flying back and forth. Remember the old saying about there being no such thing as bad publicity?
That's a really good point. It's just my anecdotal experience, of course, but I do remember a big murmur from people of "Oh yeah, that's still on" when all of the lawsuits started adding up. The same kind of thing you heard when Sesame Street dropped a song it had commissioned from Katy Perry because of complaints.
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One factor to take into account is that the show picked up a lot of buzz in the '90s when lawsuits between Barker and the models were flying back and forth. Remember the old saying about there being no such thing as bad publicity?
Doesn't hurt that this was also around the time it gained 'Last Daytime Game Standing' status.
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I don't think it took the cancellation of Caesar's Challenge to burnish TPiR's place in pop culture. :-)
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I need to put my two cents in.
I am unable to watch price on a daily basis do to college and work but I still enjoy the show. Yes many things have changed in the last 5 years but, you have to think the audience that watches price now has changed (In my opinion) dramatically. It is no longer that the LFAT has the majority, it is the every day Joe that IS the Majority. Now let me say this, LFAT are still there, many are on this site BUT, you have to rember this, TPIR is a PROFIT making show.
If Price were to have stayed the same with drew as the host, I honestly believe the show would have ended after season 38. Shows have to be adaptable with the times and the audience. If the audience does not change the show can change the same, but if the audience changes then the Show WILL change to match its audience.
Now you can take my post however you like it but, people are still going to harp about how "PRICE HAS JUMPED THE SHARK", and people are also going to say "PRICE IS STILL THE SAME". No matter what this whole topic about the "New Direction" will be around untill the one thing that we don't want to happen, happens.
New York Times,"TELEVISIONS LONGEST RUNNING GAME SHOW CANCELLED AFTER XX YEARS"
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It is no longer that the LFAT has the majority, it is the every day Joe that IS the Majority.
I would think the "every day Joe" has always made up the majority of the viewing audience. LFaTs are nice, but I doubt they made up a majority of the viewing audience at any point during the show's run, and I would think that would be the case for almost any television show.
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I would think the "every day Joe" has always made up the majority of the viewing audience. LFaTs are nice, but I doubt they made up a majority of the viewing audience at any point during the show's run, and I would think that would be the case for almost any television show.
The only thing I respectfully disagree with you on is Bob's last week of shows. There was a definitely large amount loyal fans there compared to everyday Joes.
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“Is the Price is Right still on?”
I remember when the show used to be the default program in waiting rooms. If it was 10 AM, the show was playing on those ubiquitous overhead TV’s as we waited to get our car washed or our car lubed. Now, waiting rooms have mostly CNN on or those obnoxious ladies of The View.
I think it may depend on where you live. When we went on vacation which is the only time I get to watch the show in the mornings, every where we went it was on! When we met the family at the coffee shop for breakfast it was on and everyone was watching and yelling at the tv, when the radiator broke it was on in the service area of the car dealership, it was playing in the beautry salon when we got our hair done for the wedding rehearsal, it was everywhere! At home it plays every morning in the student union and in the break room at work every day now. I think it must depend on where you live.
I also see by my friends and the ratings that alot of people are watching it. They may tune in because of Drew or because they have a favorite model or because they like to see pretty women in bathing suits at ten in the morning! I think that 99.99% of people watch it because they like the show and that its only the people here who seem to have such hate about it, but are still watching it or talking about it. I think alot of people watch it and its just because they like the show.
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How do you know?
Combination of not liking the direction the show was going, and the changes the show has made since then which were highlighted on this board.
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A year or so ago, the show came on the TV in the waiting room where I was getting my car serviced. The woman sitting next to me said, "Is that still on? I thought they took that off when Bob Barker died." The guy next to her said, "No, it's still on, but that new guy, Jim Carey, isn't any good." And then I let her know that Bob was still alive but retired.
That is both hilarious and sad. Probably the same thing a lot of people believe.
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It's now exactly one year later. This week, it was my turn to have car serviced at the dealership while TPIR was playing on the waiting room TV.
There were 14 customers in the room with me. Half men, half women, all ages. The TV volume was plenty loud and the contestant was playing a pricing game.
Not one person would look at the screen. Some kept reading the newspaper, or playing with their phones, or staring into space -- but no one was watching the show.
Finally somebody got up and changed the channel to a sitcom rerun and a few people started watching.
Has it gone from "Is the Price is Right still on?" to people simply wishing it wasn't?
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I prefer to think people turn it on just for background noise. I know I've done that; turn it on, watch the intro, and by the first pricing game I've walked of to do something more important, but walk back in to watch a pricing game or two. Sounds like these car dealership waiters were just not interested at all, which is even lower standards than me.
Cyclone
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I'm not sure it's a case of people wishing Price wasn't on, because it's not like it's the only show on and they have no choice but to watch it. If folks want to watch something else, they have the option to change channels, as in the waiting room.
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Now THIS is how you reinvigorate an old thread without needlessly bumping it up for no reason! Nicely done.
I think there's something to be said for the notion of going from wondering if the show is still on to wishing it wasn't. More specifically, though, I think it has gone from the general public wondering if it's still on to just not being as interested that it is.
I understand the need for all of the specials and gimmicks that they're promoting: they're definitely getting more publicity for themselves than they used to, and these days, they almost HAVE to do so to get noticed by those who think they aren't on anymore. Still, I think a lot of the gimmicks aren't particularly that interesting, and you run the risk of people thinking, "If THIS is the best they can do, I don't even WANT to see it."
I don't think the show has worn out its welcome, but I think the direction it has taken has just rubbed people the wrong way.
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Even if this was 10 or 15 years ago, I'm pretty sure the random people found waiting at a car dealership would rather watch a witty sitcom than 'The Price is Right'......
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When I do tune in - which isn't often anymore, I must admit I do hope to hear George say, "and now, the new host of the Price is Right - ...." anybody else but Drew. (Except Rosie O'Donnell)
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Even if this was 10 or 15 years ago, I'm pretty sure the random people found waiting at a car dealership would rather watch a witty sitcom than 'The Price is Right'......
In all of the times I've been sitting in a dealership waiting room over the past two or three years, I've only seen two types of shows that ever got people's attention: Trashy ones like Jerry Springer, and the Steve Harvey version of Family Feud. Everything else seems to be nothing but background noise. So if TPiR's goal were to get noticed in waiting rooms, they'd have to go far more downmarket.
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^Price going "downmarket" would be the absolute worst move it could make, although George began his game show career there -- Extreme Gong. Not something he likes to talk about, from what I gather, and for good reason considering he managed to redeem himself through the syndicated Weakest Link.
Feud, on the other hand, is clearly going downmarket for the sake of ratings when they really should be concerned with putting out a quality product Mark Goodson would be proud of ("quality > pandering", in regards to ratings). If a family loses because they kept their head above the gutter, or a grandmother glares at you because you could have easily removed the bottom answer of "His Schlong", you are most certainly doing it wrong...
Except it is working.
Even if this was 10 or 15 years ago, I'm pretty sure the random people found waiting at a car dealership would rather watch a witty sitcom than 'The Price is Right'......
Not all sitcoms were/are witty, sir. Some people just prefer not to exercise their cranial matter, a mindset (:roll:) that appears to be among production companies and network executives -- notably, ABC relegated Million-Dollar Mind Game to Sunday afternoons against NFL games after sitting on it for a long time...then gave a primetime slot to You Deserve It.
This is only further magnified if you have read the reports that Phil Gurin is going to pitch revivals of Truth or Consequences and Treasure Hunt (the latter with three couples competing for $1,000,000) at MIPCOM.
[Mind you, the other mindsets that "game shows have to follow a certain set of crappy guidelines and have heavy post-production work" and the whole "must have a well-known person hosting" thing are also aggravating, but are really irrelevant to this current discussion.]
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^Price going "downmarket" would be the absolute worst move it could make, although George began his game show career there -- Extreme Gong. Not something he likes to talk about, from what I gather, and for good reason considering he managed to redeem himself through the syndicated Weakest Link.
Feud, on the other hand, is clearly going downmarket for the sake of ratings when they really should be concerned with putting out a quality product Mark Goodson would be proud of ("quality > pandering", in regards to ratings). If a family loses because they kept their head above the gutter, or a grandmother glares at you because you could have easily removed the bottom answer of "His Schlong", you are most certainly doing it wrong...
Except it is working.
With someone like Steve Harvey, it DOES work. Can you see if Dawson had to read answers like that off of the survey? Granted, there were references to sex in surveys back then, too...
Cyclone
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^Yes, but not to the level (or directness) of today. From 1976-95, sex-related answers were uncommon and usually "sex" was listed as "make love" on the survey board. They knew to make sly references here and there rather than go directly for the jugular. Feud's "modus operandi" for their first 19 years could best be described as "Let's have fun, give away money, and make these families' stays pleasant ones."
When Harvey was reacting to dumb answers in his first season, it was funny. Then the show began going the same route as the 1998-99 Match Game did, going directly for the jugular...and it is no longer fun.
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I am glad to see this thread again because I have been talking to quite a few people whom you would probably consider nothing more than the average viewer of Price. One person, a chef I worked with at my old job, called Drew Carey a "putz" who "looks like he doesn't really want to be there". Another woman I work with in my new job said on Thursday, "It's so dumb for a show that's been on for so long to become so modern. Besides, people who stay home at 11 AM don't want to see modern stuff". During the same conversation another woman said, "Price is Right was like comfort food...it was always the same and you knew it would always be there".
Granted, Price is still there, but the fact that an assortment of 3 very different people in the last 3 weeks have talked negatively about the way Price is now, I feel like average people are starting to notice changes. Maybe it didn't seem like people would really notice or care at first, but I think people are realizing things have changed.
Of all the changes that have taken place, one of the hardest ones for me to accept has been the elimination of the classic music cues. It is pretty obvious the only reason they were all but eliminated were because of Mike Richards. Drew didn't complain about them on the air, and he even remarked in season 36 how you could play "The Price is Right theme song on your new electric keyboard" since the 1972 Rhodes variation of the theme was played for that particular IUFB. The old cues, however, brought out a sense of quality and elegance that really aren't on the show anymore, and I will say in a way they almost feel out of place with the way things have become in the way of presentation.
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Then the show began going the same route as the 1998-99 Match Game did, going directly for the jugular...and it is no longer fun.
What made MG '7x work and work well is that the questions left something to the imagination.
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^Yes, but not to the level (or directness) of today. From 1976-95, sex-related answers were uncommon and usually "sex" was listed as "make love" on the survey board. They knew to make sly references here and there rather than go directly for the jugular. Feud's "modus operandi" for their first 19 years could best be described as "Let's have fun, give away money, and make these families' stays pleasant ones."
When Harvey was reacting to dumb answers in his first season, it was funny. Then the show began going the same route as the 1998-99 Match Game did, going directly for the jugular...and it is no longer fun.
What made MG '7x work and work well is that the questions left something to the imagination.
The same thing can be said of the older versions of Match Game, Hollywood Squares and Family Feud: it's a lot funnier when the player or celebrity has to think up a clever double entendre, and the viewer has to think about it to get it, than when they can just come out and say "schlong." Think of the comparison between Paul Lynde or Brett Somers, and any "celebrity" you've seen on a game show lately.
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Another woman I work with in my new job said on Thursday, "It's so dumb for a show that's been on for so long to become so modern."
Heh, I will never understand this complaint.
The show would have had to adjust its look sooner or later. The old set/presentation in HD would have looked terrible.
Also, overall, it still isn't modern. It's keeping a lot of the retro game show look/feel.
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Also, overall, it still isn't modern. It's keeping a lot of the retro game show look/feel.
I remember the first time I saw any of The Price is Right (sometime within the last 15 years, probably, but before Bob left), I thought that it looked so old and fuzzy. I had no idea it was a gameshow that was still in production. I thought it was reruns of a show that had been on in the '70s or '80s. But my mom told me that it's a currently-running gameshow. I was so surprised, just because it looked so "retro", but still seemed so relevant and current.
I agree that the show still has a lot of that look and feel to it even today.
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The show would have had to adjust its look sooner or later. The old set/presentation in HD would have looked terrible.
No it wouldn't. Instead of building a completely new set for HD, if they'd wanted to, they could have completely rebuilt the old set for HD. The fact that they didn't doesn't mean it wasn't doable.
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No it wouldn't. Instead of building a completely new set for HD, if they'd wanted to, they could have completely rebuilt the old set for HD. The fact that they didn't doesn't mean it wasn't doable.
The only part of the set that really couldn't work in widescreen was the turntable area (especially after the season 36 revamp). I'm kind of interested to see how the Barker turntable would have looked in widescreen, though...
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Instead of building a completely new set for HD, if they'd wanted to, they could have completely rebuilt the old set for HD.
You've clearly never had to go through the process of requesting a major capital expenditure. Unless the set was designed by da Vinci, good luck getting a commitment for that kind of money to keep it looking the same as it did before.
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If a family loses because they kept their head above the gutter, or a grandmother glares at you because you could have easily removed the bottom answer of "His Schlong", you are most certainly doing it wrong...
At this point, families know what they're in for when they sign up for the show. If they choose not to play on the same level as the producers, that sure ain't the show's fault.
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^Yes, but not to the level (or directness) of today. From 1976-95, sex-related answers were uncommon and usually "sex" was listed as "make love" on the survey board. They knew to make sly references here and there rather than go directly for the jugular. Feud's "modus operandi" for their first 19 years could best be described as "Let's have fun, give away money, and make these families' stays pleasant ones."
When Harvey was reacting to dumb answers in his first season, it was funny. Then the show began going the same route as the 1998-99 Match Game did, going directly for the jugular...and it is no longer fun.
Coincidentally, that first season started airing on GameTV last week. So did a lot of other oldies, like The Dating Game and a Canadian production called The New Liar's Club (which I remember watching when younger just to see all the objects they have to try to describe on the panel). Of course, GSN also carries the Harvey Feud, but instead of varying the programming, they play seven solid hours of it some days. So strangely enough, given a choice of two networks like GSN and GameTV, I would choose GameTV.
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No it wouldn't. Instead of building a completely new set for HD, if they'd wanted to, they could have completely rebuilt the old set for HD. The fact that they didn't doesn't mean it wasn't doable.
Isn't that what they did though? The set changes have really been relatively minor... the doors don't sweet inward at the bottom, and the new home base is bigger, but still has a working turntable. Other than that.. the colors and patterns are updated (they did this frequently anyway), and they've added some whizbang here and there.
Had they wanted to build an entirely different set (something a bit more like Idol maybe?) they could have done that easily. It seems that they went to great lengths to make it look familiar.
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Unless "rebuilding the old set" means reinstating the 1972-2007 look to the turntable (three different bands of color on each panel), and keeping everything looking exactly as it was in the Barker era.
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Had they wanted to build an entirely different set (something a bit more like Idol maybe?) they could have done that easily. It seems that they went to great lengths to make it look familiar.
Wasn't that because of Roger? And then the turntable still exists because of Rich DiPirro. Both of whom are no longer with the show...
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No it wouldn't. Instead of building a completely new set for HD, if they'd wanted to, they could have completely rebuilt the old set for HD. The fact that they didn't doesn't mean it wasn't doable.
Umm... don't know what you are trying to say here. They really didn't build a whole new set for HD. They adjust the look to make the show overall more presentable in HD which thus made it have more of a modern look.
Unless you are talking about the turntable area. In that case, the turntable area pre-Season 38 looked bad/cramped in HD due to its size. It needed a change.
But anyways, as a whole the look of the show is definitely still retro.
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Wasn't that because of Roger? And then the turntable still exists because of Rich DiPirro. Both of whom are no longer with the show...
Like the Season 31 set, the set since Season 36 was a "compromise" from what I've read on here. If Roger had his way, we'd still have the Barker set (with new door designs and maybe a turntable color change) on 10/15/07.
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Other than that.. the colors and patterns are updated (they did this frequently anyway)....
Exactly, which is another reason why I find it funny that some people are so against it now.
In the 80s, the show updated its look a pretty decent amount and used neon colors (neon colors were popular during the time). But that was ok since it happened in the Barker era right? :roll:
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Exactly, which is another reason why I find it funny that some people are so against it now.
In the 80s, the show updated its look a pretty decent amount and used neon colors (neon colors were popular during the time). But that was ok since it happened in the Barker era right? :roll:
Some people hate the current regime so much that they will not accept or like any changes that come from them.
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In the 80s, the show updated its look a pretty decent amount
They changed the pentagon patterns on the Turntable wall and got a new Giant Price Tag and Race Game Curtain. I'm not sure in what universe that qualifies as "a pretty decent amount."
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Some people hate the current regime so much that they will not accept or like any changes that come from them.
People disliking changes on the show has been going on for years now and it has nothing to do with whether Barker hosted or not. I think many people were upset over Janice and Kathleen's dismissal, which clearly was the doing of Bob. Also, the Hollywood mural was also strongly disliked around these parts, and that was Syd's idea during Barker's tenure. Many disliked the disposal of the Plinko sign, during the Barker era, which was said to be Bart's idea; however, based on Rich DiPirro's story about the sign mysteriously vanishing after he made it known he wished to bring it back on the show, I personally think that Bart may not have been the real reason it was axed (maybe Syd?). I certainly am not a fan of the current Safecrackers reveal, a change made under Bob. The game, IMO, was much more suspenseful with the doors opening to reveal Safecrackers.
The argument that people who don't like changes now because they were made after Barker left is simply, IMO, a cop out. There are some good changes that have been made during the Carey era and then there have been changes that have been made simply because Mike felt like it. I think that most of the ones that fall in this category - removal of all pre-1994 music, picking "beautiful people" to be contestants instead of being equal to everyone regardless of looks, stationing pages away from being able to direct confused contestants onto the stage, changing to having a "parody" of an announcer, wireless mics on contestants, removal of opening titles - I can't think of anyone else who would have said "these are some good ideas that will improve the American institution of The Price is Right".
I am not anti-Carey, I am anti-nonsense. Nonsense has been happening on Price for much longer than when Drew Carey joined the show.
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Alright, I see your point, but again, I said "Some" people, not everyone. You just aren't part of that group. :)
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...picking "beautiful people" to be contestants instead of being equal to everyone regardless of looks...
Pointing to this as a "change" is absurd. Phil Wayne picked more than his share of jiggly college-age women during his tenure. And there are still plenty of people who are not models who are called as contestants. Two of the highlights videos that the show posted online last season (and are therefore presumably proud to share) were of Drew pretending to make out with a contestant in her 50s, and a balding contestant who appeared to be in his 60s losing his false tooth on stage. I don't think they're embarrassed of the fact that they have some older contestants.
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picking "beautiful people" to be contestants instead of being equal to everyone regardless of looks,
Incorrect; OCA is taking "pretty people" and giving them the front rows of the center section of the audience.
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Incorrect; OCA is taking "pretty people" and giving them the front rows of the center section of the audience.
Incorrect; that theory has been dis-proven enough times to discredit it's basis.
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They changed the pentagon patterns on the Turntable wall and got a new Giant Price Tag and Race Game Curtain. I'm not sure in what universe that qualifies as "a pretty decent amount."
Didn't they change the big doors?
Also, I'm not sure in what universe the majority of the complaints made about the show now would be "MAJOR PROBLEMS!" but that's how a good # of many here act so I find that little snarky remark you made to be a bit funny.
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Didn't they change the big doors?
Outside of the bottom of Door #2 being repainted and the colored strips on the frames becoming gold -- neither of which happened during the '80s -- no changes were made to the doors at all between 1975 and 1996.
Also, I'm not sure in what universe the majority of the complaints made about the show now would be "MAJOR PROBLEMS!" but that's how a good # of many here act so I find that little snarky remark you made to be a bit funny.
Can't say I really see what one has to do with the other, but hey, whatever it takes to make you feel like you've got a valid point.
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The host might not be the best choice, but it's still 9 contestants, 6 games, 2 showcase showdowns and a showcase. What exactly has changed with that?
Get over the cosmetic changes, it's not 1975 anymore
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The host might not be the best choice, but it's still 9 contestants, 6 games, 2 showcase showdowns and a showcase. What exactly has changed with that?
I enjoy the show as it is today, but this has got to be the oldest argument in the book. It almost makes me cringe every time I read it.
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Which doesn't make it less applicable, though. :D
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The host might not be the best choice, but it's still 9 contestants, 6 games, 2 showcase showdowns and a showcase. What exactly has changed with that?
Get over the cosmetic changes, it's not 1975 anymore
This argument has been rehashed time and again, and the counterargument is always the same -- one can keep the same format, but screw the show through every other conceivable manner.
Regarding the games, how many show up time and again specifically to result in losses? How many get played less than ten times a season? How many are even set up well? Why does Pay the Rent exist?
Regarding the Showcases, how many are something other than "Here are some prizes to fit a theme; no skits, no variety, and sometimes just 1-2 prizes."? And how many trips have had generic references to hotels or amenities that cannot reasonably be priced due to being so vague?
And aside from that, how many shows with celebrity appearances were chopped down considerably? How many with "house bands"? How many times did Drew concentrate on the gimmicks rather than the games and Showcases? Or say the Showcases are for "the biggest and best prizes" when that was never meant to be their purpose?
How many days does the staff work now as opposed to Season 36 and prior? How many people have been fired by Mike Richards? And what is the ratio of pre-1994 to post-2008 music?
[I apologize for being so vitriolic to a new member, but this argument truly has been rehashed so many times when there is clearly a difference in how the show is done.]
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Can't say I really see what one has to do with the other, but hey, whatever it takes to make you feel like you've got a valid point.
I just found it funny and a bit ironic how you said "I don't know in what universe that qualifies as a decent amount", when the majority of complaints viewed as major on these forums wouldn't be viewed as being major pretty much anywhere else.
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This argument has been rehashed time and again, and the counterargument is always the same -- one can keep the same format, but screw the show through every other conceivable manner.
Regarding the games, how many show up time and again specifically to result in losses? How many get played less than ten times a season? How many are even set up well? Why does Pay the Rent exist?
Regarding the Showcases, how many are something other than "Here are some prizes to fit a theme; no skits, no variety, and sometimes just 1-2 prizes."? And how many trips have had generic references to hotels or amenities that cannot reasonably be priced due to being so vague?
And aside from that, how many shows with celebrity appearances were chopped down considerably? How many with "house bands"? How many times did Drew concentrate on the gimmicks rather than the games and Showcases? Or say the Showcases are for "the biggest and best prizes" when that was never meant to be their purpose?
How many days does the staff work now as opposed to Season 36 and prior? How many people have been fired by Mike Richards? And what is the ratio of pre-1994 to post-2008 music?
[I apologize for being so vitriolic to a new member, but this argument truly has been rehashed so many times when there is clearly a difference in how the show is done.]
So his argument/point has been rehashed and yours hasn't?
I feel like I see that post (or something similar to it) in almost every other thread here.
If you feel that it has changed a lot then that's fine, but as long as it maintains its long running game format, many will see it as the same game.
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So his argument/point has been rehashed and yours hasn't?
I feel like I see that post (or something similar to it) in almost every other thread here.
The "still Contestant's Row, nine contestants, six pricing games, two Showcase Showdowns, two Showcases so nothing has truly changed" argument (which has been seen here and elsewhere) is, I believe, flawed because a solid format can be and has been dragged down by at least some things around it.
Regardless, point taken, sir -- over the years, the contents of my post have indeed been rehashed just as much as the "nothing has truly changed" post has.
If you feel that it has changed a lot then that's fine, but as long as it maintains its long running game format, many will see it as the same game.
As has been pointed out here, people who watch the show only occasionally notice certain things, such as Drew sometimes coming across as bored, or sudden jump cuts, or the gimmicks and celebrity guests that sometimes hurt the show in some form or another, or several other things I have forgotten over time.
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I just found it funny and a bit ironic how you said "I don't know in what universe that qualifies as a decent amount", when the majority of complaints viewed as major on these forums wouldn't be viewed as being major pretty much anywhere else.
Two concepts which, again, do not have anything to do with one another.
It's one thing to disagree with a person, but the rhetoric you're using doesn't even make any sense, and I find that far more annoying than any opinion you might have about the show.
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Two concepts which, again, do not have anything to do with one another.
You criticized what I viewed as a decent change, when yet the same could be done to pretty much the majority of what you (and other people here) regularly post. That's why I found it funny.
Considering they both involve TPiR, as well as what we view to be "changes" about the show, I would say that the two concepts do have some connections.
It's one thing to disagree with a person, but the rhetoric you're using doesn't even make any sense, and I find that far more annoying than any opinion you might have about the show.
No what I'm saying makes sense. As I basically stated in my previous post, how could you say that what I posted wouldn't be thought of as a decent sized change "in any universe" when you (and the majority of posters here) get worked up over things/changes that only hardcore TPiR fans would know about?
Couldn't the "In what universe..." statement you said to me be directed to you and the things you feel have changed since Bob left the show?
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Dude, I don't even remember anymore. You started this almost a week ago, and frankly, I don't feel like reading through it again to remind myself why it doesn't make sense.
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Dude, I don't even remember anymore. You started this almost a week ago, and frankly, I don't feel like reading through it again to remind myself why it doesn't make sense.
Maybe it would make more sense if you read through it again?
It isn't like the posts were long and/or that far back.
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Maybe it would make more sense if you read through it again?
What part of "I don't feel like reading through it again" are you not getting?
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What part of "I don't feel like reading through it again" are you not getting?
All I said was that maybe it would make sense if you read it again. It had nothing to do with whether or not you wanted to do so.
:lol: you are such a jerk.
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Dude. Seriously. Two weeks later?
Freaking drop it.
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Dude. Seriously. Two weeks later?
Freaking drop it.
Heh, just replying to what you said. I don't post here everyday.
Love how you are continuing to try and make it look like I'm the one that's being wrong here.
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That was a long thread to read. 8-O
I think something that hasn't been mentioned on here is very important. I, personally, love a lot of the changes. I like the male models, I like the crazy prizes, I like the looser feel, I like HEARING the models, and I like the celebrity visits.
But what Price has sort of been dropping the ball on is the human element. I'm not sure how much of this can be helped. The show, from what I can tell, has to be at 39 minutes or less of programming. When I look at older episodes, they were around 44 minutes.
Those five minutes were very crucial in helping viewing audiences get to know contestants. With nine different contestants in a show, those 30 seconds per contestant had to be milked as much as possible. Now that those minutes are permanently gone, it almost makes sense why they pick really expressive or flailing contestants: 1) It will theoretically bring in more ratings to have wackier people, and 2) they basically need people who can communicate who they are in the course of one "come-on-down". Since Drew has to rush straight into the "Items up for Bids", you don't really get to know any of these people. You're either the "psycho-jumper", the "crazy-screaming-lady", or the "barreling man-hugger".
Honestly, I think that is a big handicap for the show. How, in the middle of a recession, can a show that practically gives away prizes, not appeal to the common person? And I think the reason for that is because you don't know anything about these people. Is it a single Mom? A retiree who had to go back to work? A person who had to sell all their furniture to keep their home and now has a chance to win it back?
The show is doing a good job, I would say, in attracting the younger crowd, since what college student can resist the allure of free money to pay off student loans, or a free car? I think that would partially explain why Drew fixates on money and car prizes so much, because that's really what a young adult only cares about at that age while in college.
But when it comes to a post-college everyman (everywoman), I think the show is seriously slacking. Whether it is because they are so focused on the young crowd, or because they have lost the time needed to speak with contestants, I think keeping it to the bare bones will make the show suffer in the long run. They have to return to that human element, regardless of whether they keep or change anything else.
In the end, I'm only whining, since I can't think of a solution that doesn't involve cutting out a slot in Contestant's Row, or reducing it down from six games to four. But I truly believe that human element will be what will help the show return to what it once was, more so than the temporary boost of a celebrity week, or a rare YouTube viral video.
BTW, where CAN you find the show's ratings?
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The show is doing a good job, I would say, in attracting the younger crowd, since what college student can resist the allure of free money to pay off student loans, or a free car? I think that would partially explain why Drew fixates on money and car prizes so much, because that's really what a young adult only cares about at that age while in college.
You forgot the 365 pairs of shoes. :P
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You forgot the 365 pairs of shoes. :P
Hey, if it gets them to watch the show, why not? ;)
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Crocodile, when you mentioned the loss of the "human element" from the show, you hit the nail on the head. The show is edited a lot. The live-to-tape feel really made me feel like I was a part of the whole experience, but now there is so much editing you almost automatically know when there was a chop here or a clip there and continuity is kind of ruined in a way.
One thing I really miss is that there is no longer focus on praising viewers who watch the show regularly. Bob always made a point when he asked a contestant if they knew how to play, for example, Clock Game, to praise them for their loyalty to the show and he wouldn't have to explain the game. If they didn't know, he would say "Don't you know this is one of the oldest games on our show?" and then you would know, as a viewer, that if you came on the show you should know your stuff! Now I feel like every contestant gets a game explanation regardless, which wastes time, and the only way we know if they watch everyday is if they voluntarily say so. That recognition made you feel a part of something bigger and you felt appreciated as a viewer, even if you never once had visited Television City. Perhaps this is due to the flaws of Drew as a host, whose contestant interaction usually consists of where are you from and what do you do. Not saying those are bad questions, but it happens pretty much for everyone. I'm sure the showcase perfect bid fiasco also has a lot to do with it.
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Love how you are continuing to try and make it look like I'm the one that's being wrong here.
Seriously? I gave up on this discussion 13 days ago. Hell, I don't even remember what it was about anymore. You're the one who doesn't seem to be able to shut up about it.
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Crocodile, when you mentioned the loss of the "human element" from the show, you hit the nail on the head. The show is edited a lot. The live-to-tape feel really made me feel like I was a part of the whole experience, but now there is so much editing you almost automatically know when there was a chop here or a clip there and continuity is kind of ruined in a way.
One thing I really miss is that there is no longer focus on praising viewers who watch the show regularly. Bob always made a point when he asked a contestant if they knew how to play, for example, Clock Game, to praise them for their loyalty to the show and he wouldn't have to explain the game. If they didn't know, he would say "Don't you know this is one of the oldest games on our show?" and then you would know, as a viewer, that if you came on the show you should know your stuff! Now I feel like every contestant gets a game explanation regardless, which wastes time, and the only way we know if they watch everyday is if they voluntarily say so. That recognition made you feel a part of something bigger and you felt appreciated as a viewer, even if you never once had visited Television City. Perhaps this is due to the flaws of Drew as a host, whose contestant interaction usually consists of where are you from and what do you do. Not saying those are bad questions, but it happens pretty much for everyone. I'm sure the showcase perfect bid fiasco also has a lot to do with it.
I agree that the show is edited down a lot. I still think there's a human element since Drew usually asks contestants what they do and if he/she has a unique story, Drew will usually tie that into the game somehow. But overall, I definitely understand where you all are coming from.
Seriously? I gave up on this discussion 13 days ago. Hell, I don't even remember what it was about anymore. You're the one who doesn't seem to be able to shut up about it.
I'm just simply replying to what you say (since your posts were responses to me). Sorry; I thought that was something people did on message boards. :roll:
And yes, you are continuing to try and get the upper hand by making it seem as if I'm the one being ridiculous. All I did was post simple replies.
You on the other hand first said that I didn't have a point, then said that you didn't remember what my point was, and after that said that I can't "let go". Pretty funny how you changed in this thread. Seems like you simply don't want to acknowledge that I actually made a good point about what you said in your previous post (that you somehow can't seem to remember).
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You on the other hand first said that I didn't have a point, then said that you didn't remember what my point was, and after that said that I can't "let go". Pretty funny how you changed in this thread. Seems like you simply don't want to acknowledge that I actually made a good point about what you said in your previous post (that you somehow can't seem to remember).
Okay, dude...in all seriousness, what part of "I stopped caring about this two weeks ago" are you having trouble grasping? I can't even remember the original discussion, and I'm not going to bother going back to look at it, because I really don't want to have it again; the only thing that interests me about this thread at this point is your apparent inability to give up on an argument that you can't seem to understand has already ended.
You are making a complete and utter fool of yourself, and your continued insistence upon doing so and apparent downright glee at the prospect of it absolutely baffles me.
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Okay, dude...in all seriousness, what part of "I stopped caring about this two weeks ago" are you having trouble grasping? I can't even remember the original discussion, and I'm not going to bother going back to look at it, because I really don't want to have it again; the only thing that interests me about this thread at this point is your apparent inability to give up on an argument that you can't seem to understand has already ended.
That's the thing though, you didn't post a proper response to what I said. You just said "forget it... I don't remember" and left it at that. This thread isn't even that long in size for a response like that to make sense (you could have just simply clicked back one page). That's why I think you are using that statement as a cover up for you not wanting to admit that I made a good point.
I'm responding to you because I can't believe how you are acting over my previous simple posts that meant no harm.
You are making a complete and utter fool of yourself, and your continued insistence upon doing so and apparent downright glee at the prospect of it absolutely baffles me.
So, I stated a perfectly valid response and simply stated that checking out my previous posts again would more than likely make you understand where I was coming from.
You on the other hand said that my point was silly, then said that you forgot my original point, and then said you wanted to drop the discussion based on that fact as if I was posting pages on top of pages of posts. You responded to me in a very unnecessary snarky fashion (as you are known for here on these forums), and then eventually said that you forgot what the (very short) discussion was about... yet, I'm the one making a fool of himself?
Heh, ok. Sure :roll:
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Anyway, I notice all the time that people get confused as to whether the show is still on or not or whether Bob is dead or retired. Then there's some who still follow the show, some who know it's around but don't care anymore, and some who just watch every so often. I think in time we'll see this fade away as Drew continues his run.
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Okay, dude...in all seriousness, what part of "I stopped caring about this two weeks ago" are you having trouble grasping?
...aaaaaaaaaand now we apparently know that the answer is, "The whole thing."
Wow.
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...aaaaaaaaaand now we apparently know that the answer is, "The whole thing."
Wow.
....And now we apparently know that you simply want to continue on being a jerk instead of simply looking at a very short number of previous posts I made and continuing on with the discussion we had (i.e.: actually being productive on a message board).
I have no problem with you not caring about the discussion we had, however, I find it funny that it somehow takes more effort for you to look back at 3-4 (pretty short) posts that I made than it does for you to continue on posting unnecessary snarky comments.
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Here's some cookies. Now doesn't that make you both feel a lot better?
Anyway, I notice all the time that people get confused as to whether the show is still on or not or whether Bob is dead or retired. Then there's some who still follow the show, some who know it's around but don't care anymore, and some who just watch every so often. I think in time we'll see this fade away as Drew continues his run.
Haha, thanks. :-)
Good point by the way.
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I only talk to myself when I know nobody's looking. Steve on the other hand...
I didn't watch The Price is Right at all the three days I was off from work, mainly because of coverage of Hurricane Sandy. Nothing to do with Drew hosting but the moment I see Pay the Rent, though, I put something else on (such as the case when another affiliate picked up Price on Wednesday).
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I only talk to myself when I know nobody's looking. Steve on the other hand...
That was a little uncalled for. Steve is actually not a bad person if you get to know him. He's a bit like me in the sense that we both get tired of dealing with knuckleheads to put it politely. His approach is a bit more direct. Mine's more facetious.
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In regards to people questioning if the show is still on, I will say that the male model contest sure garnered a lot of interest. People whom I have never even dreamed would be Price fans have mentioned it to me.
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That was a little uncalled for. Steve is actually not a bad person if you get to know him. He's a bit like me in the sense that we both get tired of dealing with knuckleheads to put it politely. His approach is a bit more direct. Mine's more facetious.
Found it a little weird that someone would quote themselves. I mean no offense to Steve.
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Actually it made sense to do so as it put his remark into context.
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Yeah, I see. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.
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Found it a little weird that someone would quote themselves. I mean no offense to Steve.
None taken. Actually, I thought it was a pretty apt description of the last page and a half or so.
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That was a little uncalled for. Steve is actually not a bad person if you get to know him. He's a bit like me in the sense that we both get tired of dealing with knuckleheads to put it politely.
May I join you two in that group? I also cannot stand knuckleheads, and my responses to them (at least here) tend to be more direct with bits of vague snarkiness if need be.
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Here's some cookies. Now doesn't that make you both feel a lot better?
I have already eaten dinner (three slices of pizza) and a dessert (Milky Way bar), yet you show me baked goods containing chocolate chips and what I am hoping are some kind of edible nuts.
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Okay, dude...in all seriousness, what part of "I stopped caring about this two weeks ago" are you having trouble grasping? I can't even remember the original discussion, and I'm not going to bother going back to look at it, because I really don't want to have it again; the only thing that interests me about this thread at this point is your apparent inability to give up on an argument that you can't seem to understand has already ended.
You are making a complete and utter fool of yourself, and your continued insistence upon doing so and apparent downright glee at the prospect of it absolutely baffles me.
Quibbling and bickering, bickering and quibbling. What part of "enough already" don't you get?
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Quibbling and bickering, bickering and quibbling. What part of "enough already" don't you get?
He gets it. BD is the one who seems bent on keeping it going. Steve's asked him several times to just drop it, but he won't. It's almost like BD is bound and determined to have the last word no matter what.
...can't see that ending well for him.
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He gets it. BD is the one who seems bent on keeping it going. Steve's asked him several times to just drop it, but he won't. It's almost like BD is bound and determined to have the last word no matter what.
...can't see that ending well for him.
It takes two to have a pissing match.
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What is it about this thread that causes people to randomly bump it after bizarre lengths of time?
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Making sure the show is still on.
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He gets it. BD is the one who seems bent on keeping it going. Steve's asked him several times to just drop it, but he won't. It's almost like BD is bound and determined to have the last word no matter what.
...can't see that ending well for him.
heh, seriously?
How is saying "Maybe you would understand what I said if you read my previous posts again..." me not being able to drop it? I "dropped it" a while ago... the reason it kept going was due to how ridiculous Steve was acting via his replies.
My responses were in disbelief of his snarky replies; it had nothing to do with me wanting to continue on with the previous discussion.
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At this point you are both being ridiculous, seriously this is coming off as pointless and petty at this point. Just move on.
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And to make sure everybody moves on I'm locking this thread. I'm not going to let this every-three-day-responding pissing match to continue. Someties I wonder why people can't walk away from a disagreement instead of continuing trying to get people to see things their way. Enough already!