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Studio 33 - Price is Right Discussion => The TALK Is Right => Topic started by: priac on September 12, 2022, 05:18:42 PM
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Assuming Monday’s Season 51 Premiere will be pre-empted due to coverage of Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral? I can’t imagine the networks not covering this. Wondering if they’ll rerun the season premiere on Tues. Thoughts ?
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I suppose it depends on how long the coverage lasts. It'll be 6 in the morning on the East Coast when it starts, so it's conceivable that it'll be over by the time Price comes on.
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I suppose it depends on how long the coverage lasts. It'll be 6 in the morning on the East Coast when it starts, so it's conceivable that it'll be over by the time Price comes on.
I hope it is-- I don't want it to be an all-day affair (important as the late Queen Elizabeth was); I really do want to see this premiere.
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According to my local CBS affilate, it's supposed to run from 7-9 AM Eastern
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According to my local CBS affilate, it's supposed to run from 7-9 AM Eastern
That's what I wanted to know! Hopefully it's in that time frame on the day of.
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Assuming Monday’s Season 51 Premiere will be pre-empted due to coverage of Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral? I can’t imagine the networks not covering this. Wondering if they’ll rerun the season premiere on Tues. Thoughts ?
They have pre-empted the Season 27 premiere on the originally scheduled date back in the late 1990s in favor of a Presidential News Conference or some other CBS News related stuff. That season premiere ended up airing on Tuesday, and the episode originally intended to air on Tuesday that week was rescheduled for after Christmas, if I remember correctly. If they pre-empt the Season 51 premiere of TPIR on Monday, chances are they'll air it on Tuesday.
I read on other threads about a season premiere being pre-empted on the East Coast in 1993 (which had the debut of Cover Up) - what was the reason for the pre-emption? Was it a Preisdential news conference or some breaking news?
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Not to be nitpicky, but isn't saying something was preempted "in favor" of something else tasteless?
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They have pre-empted the Season 27 premiere on the originally scheduled date back in the late 1990s in favor of a Presidential News Conference or some other CBS News related stuff. That season premiere ended up airing on Tuesday, and the episode originally intended to air on Tuesday that week was rescheduled for after Christmas, if I remember correctly. If they pre-empt the Season 51 premiere of TPIR on Monday, chances are they'll air it on Tuesday.
I read on other threads about a season premiere being pre-empted on the East Coast in 1993 (which had the debut of Cover Up) - what was the reason for the pre-emption? Was it a Preisdential news conference or some breaking news?
Season 22 was the Oslo Accords signing. Season 27 was Monica Lewinsky coverage.
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Not to be nitpicky, but isn't saying something was preempted "in favor" of something else tasteless?
Frequently, and it’s also somewhat misstating things. It’s not about favoring anything.
All that being said, so far ABC and NBC are showing coverage as running until noon eastern, vs CBS’s 9 a.m. Quite the variance and while not impossible, it would be unusual for one network to bail three hours ahead of the others.
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Frequently, and it’s also somewhat misstating things. It’s not about favoring anything.
All that being said, so far ABC and NBC are showing coverage as running until noon eastern, vs CBS’s 9 a.m. Quite the variance and while not impossible, it would be unusual for one network to bail three hours ahead of the others.
Not really when you consider the overall daytime TV picture.
NBC/ABC's pre noon lineup is controlled by either their news departments, or local affiliates. CBS, however, still has a full daytime lineup, and with 2 shows (TPIR and LMAD) scheduled to start a new season that day.
Thus why CBS at the moment scheduling to end coverage at 9 instead of Noon.
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Not really when you consider the overall daytime TV picture.
NBC/ABC's pre noon lineup is controlled by either their news departments, or local affiliates. CBS, however, still has a full daytime lineup, and with 2 shows (TPIR and LMAD) scheduled to start a new season that day.
Thus why CBS at the moment scheduling to end coverage at 9 instead of Noon.
Not everybody has Let's Make A Deal starting at 10:00 Eastern (or the hour preceding TPIR). It's a great reason, one we share, but that wouldn't stop CBS from making a change. Many people whose daytime lineup starts at 11:00 would have a decent CBS lineup running from 12:30 to 4:00 or whenever their half hour local news ends
Despite why CBS would forgo extra/bonus coverage, I agree with imhomerjay that it would be unusual for one of the 3 big networks to stop coverage early (even if it would be 2-3 hours of reaction from CBS), but you'd think they'd have announce something by now. They're not obligated to I don't think, but people would be unhappy if there's an 11th hour change. To be honest, I'm not sure if I'll be all that upset since it'll be available at a later time. However, I don't think I'd be a fan if they ran the premiere on the West Coast (in a likely error). Still, for me, it's wait & see (all the way to Monday). It is the premiere, but that aside, it's not a big deal. Especially when you compare it to the celebration of life (for Queen Elizabeth II).
I actually logged on around Midnight to post / with the intent to post the history of season premiere preemptions (specifically 1998-1999) and then didn't since FanOfDrew87 content that showed up pretty much took care of that. As mentioned, the premiere was pushed back a day, and the scheduled Tuesday show was delayed "then-indefinitely" to air at a later date. It was a New Year's Eve airing, and a perfect show. That was 24 years ago, and the final week of the year is no longer a week full of reruns; if there's a delay, I'm image they'd have to air it (possibly a decent show with very good results) the week after Thanksgiving Week. I figured that Black Friday would've been perfect, but then someone at Discord reminded me that it wouldn't be an option due to college football coverage (in years past they didn't start until around 2 EST, with a Y&R special preceding that).
On the other hand, they could simply push back all 5 shows into 09/26 (next Monday) and go from there. I think we're clear (and everything will run as scheduled), but I will not be surprised if that's subject to change, where we don't find out until Sunday evening or even early Monday morning
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Well, there have been many cases in which a show was significantly or partially pre-empted due to CBS News stuff, and the episodes in question were never reran. It was likely due to nothing big or nothing exciting to warrant a rescheduling. It makes me wonder if the Season 22 premiere was never aired on the East Coast at a later date due to nothing major being won.
I also remember reading in archived posts that CBS pre-empted a show in February 2011 due to a news conference - and that show didn't see the light of day until much later in August that year. This was probably due to there being a double overbid in the Showcase, and although five pricing games were won, there were likely no overly great wins (if I remember correctly, there were no cash games) - so that would explain the decision to hold off until late in the summer rerun period that year.
I also expect there could be another pre-emption later this month or early October for coverage of King Charles III's coronation.
NBC and ABC does air news through noon ET either way. Has been for some years now. CBS is the only network to not air news through noon ET on a regular basis. It may still be possible for CBS to air TPIR's season premiere as scheduled, but we may have a better picture as early as Sunday night.
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All that being said, so far ABC and NBC are showing coverage as running until noon eastern, vs CBS’s 9 a.m. Quite the variance and while not impossible, it would be unusual for one network to bail three hours ahead of the others.
Adding to this:
PBS special report until 12 (11AM is a separate program in the guide)
CNN/MSNBC until 1
NewsNation (the old WGN) until 12
...however CBSN is only until 9 as is the main network.
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I also expect there could be another pre-emption later this month or early October for coverage of King Charles III's coronation.
I don't think that going to happen until next year. I don't even think that that's been scheduled yet.
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I also remember reading in archived posts that CBS pre-empted a show in February 2011 due to a news conference - and that show didn't see the light of day until much later in August that year. This was probably due to there being a double overbid in the Showcase, and although five pricing games were won, there were likely no overly great wins (if I remember correctly, there were no cash games) - so that would explain the decision to hold off until late in the summer rerun period that year.
If we are thinking of the same show, I believe this was due to it being guest announced by Steve White, and it was moved to August and surrounded by other Steve White episodes, so it wouldn’t be out of place once George Gray was announced as the permanent announcer.
I think we’ll be fine on Monday, but if we’re not, I would think they’d bump the week back a day, and air Friday’s the following Monday, and bump that show to an open gap on the schedule.
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Be prepAred for a preemptoon. Because TV guides are not always correct.
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NBC and ABC does air news through noon ET either way. Has been for some years now. CBS is the only network to not air news through noon ET on a regular basis.
Not totally (at least not here). Our ABC has Sherri at 10am and then The View at 11am, while NBC has Drew Barrymore at 11am.
CBS happens to carry Ryan and Kelly at 9, with LMAD and TPIR following.
All of those others are syndicated and talk show type shows, but not specifically news shows (unlike GMA or the Today show would be, done by their networks and news related).
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Not really when you consider the overall daytime TV picture.
NBC/ABC's pre noon lineup is controlled by either their news departments, or local affiliates. CBS, however, still has a full daytime lineup, and with 2 shows (TPIR and LMAD) scheduled to start a new season that day.
Thus why CBS at the moment scheduling to end coverage at 9 instead of Noon.
However, major breaking news supersedes whatever else is scheduled. It’s not about who “controls” a block day to day. News takes it over when warranted. According to one breakdown of the timeline, adjusted to US eastern timing, there is a televised committal service will be held. Totally possible CBS is passing on that, but past history leaves open the distinct possibility they will carry it. Generally, you’re not going to cede this type of rare event coverage, a prestige event for your news operation, to your competition.
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Generally, you’re not going to cede this type of rare event coverage, a prestige event for your news operation, to your competition.
I would make a counter argument here that CBS may have strong suspicion The Price is Right will bring in a much larger audience than continuing post-funeral coverage into the 11 a.m. ET hour, especially given the service itself will likely be long over with by that point, and the majority of viewers without a keen interest in it will likely have moved on to a different channel. The other networks don’t really have anything to air but news, so extending coverage makes sense for them. CBS has a robust daytime lineup with some heavy hitters, putting them in a unique position to score big ratings for their daytime season premieres if they choose to let them all air, which as of now, appears to be what they’re doing. It’s a no-brainer decision for me if I’m a network executive, but for better or worse (most definitely better), I’m not in that position. :P
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I know, when Princess Diana died a quarter of a century ago, I believe they aired coverage of her funeral on a Saturday morning (September 6, 1997, to be exact), and the (height of the) funeral coverage was pretty much over well before 11:00 a.m. ET. Bear in mind that when it is 9 a.m. in England, many North American viewers are likely asleep in bed. I know of at least one person who is planning to record the coverage since she will be in bed when it starts. This is a historical funeral, since we honor the passing of one of the most important women in history. Something like this happens extremely rarely. It sounds like the funeral coverage will probably take up a bulk of the news/variety program CBS Mornings, at least.
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I would make a counter argument here that CBS may have strong suspicion The Price is Right will bring in a much larger audience than continuing post-funeral coverage into the 11 a.m. ET hour, especially given the service itself will likely be long over with by that point, and the majority of viewers without a keen interest in it will likely have moved on to a different channel. The other networks don’t really have anything to air but news, so extending coverage makes sense for them. CBS has a robust daytime lineup with some heavy hitters, putting them in a unique position to score big ratings for their daytime season premieres if they choose to let them all air, which as of now, appears to be what they’re doing. It’s a no-brainer decision for me if I’m a network executive, but for better or worse (most definitely better), I’m not in that position. :P
I’m sorry, but no. That’s not remotely how it works. Setting aside the inaccuracy of the statement about the other networks, the news divisions are far more important to the networks, even CBS with its morning challenges. Whatever CBS or doesn’t do isn’t driven by the Price is Right.
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Here come a couple links on what to expect on Monday. Basically how each Network will operate, and then plans for a New York affiliate.
Here's How Everyone's Handling Coverage For Queen Elizabeth (Courtesy of Adweek) (https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-how-u-s-tv-news-is-covering-the-state-funeral-of-queen-elizabeth-ii/514510/)
Some Affiliate Plans For Monday (WWNY) (https://www.wwnytv.com/2022/09/16/queens-funeral-preempt-7-news-monday-morning/)
FWIW, TPIR has been interrupted a ton over the past several decades. Price is a big deal, but big events are a much bigger deal than a gameshow. CBS usually has done a decent job when it comes to what's in their best interest. I do wonder if they would've preempted stuff through noon if next week was a rerun, or if the premiere week had taken place over this past week
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I’m sorry, but no. That’s not remotely how it works. Setting aside the inaccuracy of the statement about the other networks, the news divisions are far more important to the networks, even CBS with its morning challenges. Whatever CBS or doesn’t do isn’t driven by the Price is Right.
1.) How is his statement inaccurate? The closest thing either ABC or NBC has to "not a news program" in the morning is The View. Everything else before noon either is part of their morning program or was given back to the affiliates decades ago.
2.) Brian Stelter and the February 15, 2019, episode might take issue with the rest of your assessment.
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The idea breaking news in the morning is only covered because there are news hours or affiliate hours is absurd. All three networks also control O & Os, and spend money, often on their corporate cousin syndicated shows. Disney makes a boatload from Live. They do damn well with The View. Whatever Price-centric goggles some people may choose to wear, it is not the way business operates. The news division wants the time? They’re getting the time. They don’t, then hooray for fans of other shows. But for darned sure the big guns at CBS aren’t telling the news division to bail out because of a game show.
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But for darned sure the big guns at CBS aren’t telling the news division to bail out because of a game show.
They've done it before. (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/430218-cbs-leaves-trump-for-the-price-is-right/)
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IMO, I think they bailed due to the reason for the preemption or the content of the news report, not because The Price is Right was on. I think they would've bolted if The Young & The Restless was on or even The Talk.
Basically there's precedent that it's happened (02/15/19). I don't think I'll be a common occurrence (or it was), but just TPTB making a necessary call, doing something that was in the best interest for their network
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Going by the links that SeaBreeze posted and what my service provider's program guide currently has on, it appears CBS intends to move the coverage to just their news streaming platform after 9am tomorrow.
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They've done it before. (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/430218-cbs-leaves-trump-for-the-price-is-right/)
You don't see the monumental difference between what became political performative theater replete with his usual grievance fest, and the funeral of the longest-serving head of state in Great Britain? This is beyond apples to oranges. It's apples to steamboats.
It looks more like CBS sent a considerably smaller contingent to cover events in England. Budget move for the news division? Maybe. The ABC list, for example, looked like the starting roster of an NFL team with the number reporters and anchors sent over. Send a smaller contingent, and maybe you don't have the flexibility the other networks do to anchor multiple events from multiple locations. ABC can easily deploy some other talent to the commitment ceremony. Not "hey, we won't send the full contingent of reporters because a game show happens to be scheduled for a new episode." Price isn't driving decisions, however it may benefit from them.
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They've done it before. (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/430218-cbs-leaves-trump-for-the-price-is-right/)
Not only that, but going WAY back, the company overruled the president of CBS News and decided not to carry some of the hearings during Vietnam in order to show RERUNS of shows (OK, one of them was Lucy, but still...)
They did change that tune fairly quickly when it also caused said president of news to leave the company.
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my 2 cents: the TPIR social media pages wouldn't be promoting it if they knew it'd be preempted
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Speaking as someone who has worked in the media for more than 40 years, CBS is hoping the live coverage carries right up to the start of TPIR with the hopes that everyone who got up before dawn to watch all the pomp and circumstance of the funeral will be ready for something less somber for the next hour. Or, they fell asleep with the TV on that’s hooked up to a Nielsen device.
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In Canada we.know CityTV will.not air price because of the funeral, even though CityTV does not have a national news cast.
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Speaking as someone who has worked in the media for more than 40 years, CBS is hoping the live coverage carries right up to the start of TPIR with the hopes that everyone who got up before dawn to watch all the pomp and circumstance of the funeral will be ready for something less somber for the next hour. Or, they fell asleep with the TV on that’s hooked up to a Nielsen device.
According to the Order of Service released by Buckingham Palace, the portion that takes place at Windsor Castle is supposed to start at 11 AM Eastern. Going by TV listings, it is supposed to last an hour, and ABC and NBC are shown as airing it, although CBS and Fox are not.
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my 2 cents: the TPIR social media pages wouldn't be promoting it if they knew it'd be preempted
Especially that one on Instagram, "therealpriceisright," which I am following-- it'd be a bad look if this premiere was hyped as much as it was, and then was preempted on the day of.
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Speaking as someone who has worked in the media for more than 40 years, CBS is hoping the live coverage carries right up to the start of TPIR with the hopes that everyone who got up before dawn to watch all the pomp and circumstance of the funeral will be ready for something less somber for the next hour. Or, they fell asleep with the TV on that’s hooked up to a Nielsen device.
It’s also worth considering there’s a whole other part of the country when these decisions are made. CBS out west will get to have local news for at least a part of the important morning time period on rather important owned stations like KCBS and KPIX. That’s not exactly insignificant. CBS Mornings, though presumably nearly all royal funeral coverage, will air, while GMA and a good chunk of Today won’t. Less significant than the revenue CBS may still be able to not lose for an hour of news, but not worthless by any means.
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i have my local CBS station on now, and they're not carrying the funeral (even BEFORE the game shows would start)
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On KYW in Philly, the CBS coverage ended at 9, but they aired an hour of "CBS Mornings" from 9-10. LMaD aired at 10, so it sounds good for Price to air at 11.
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City TV was showing funeral coverage till 1pm (it's a bigger deal for us since Canada is a Commonwealth realm). WIVB (Buffalo affiliate) aired Price in its entirety
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WIVB (Buffalo affiliate) aired Price in its entirety
And my local CBS (WSPA) had it too.
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I bet the show aired entirely in all U.S. markets across the nation by now.
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I bet the show aired entirely in all U.S. markets across the nation by now.
And with that utterly pointless observation made after the end of the show's timeslot in Hawaii, I think it's time we LOCK this thread.